Did any US soldiers serve four combat tours of duty in Vietnam?
Yes his name was CPL Wolfe 3rd MAR DIV 3RD RECON Bn. Check the Marine Corps Gazette Oct 1967
21 people found this useful
Short : 12 months : "Tour of duty" means how much time did a person typically spend in a war zone. In Vietnam, the "war zone" was complicated. For 99% of Army and Marine ground soldiers, the war zone was limited to South Vietnam. But for Air Force and Navy pilots, the "war zone" extended beyond… South Vietnam to North Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos. (Carrier fighter pilot John McCain, for example, a bona fide hero for his prison time in North Vietnam, never set foot in the South Vietnam combat zone, never witnessed ground forces in battle. Also, many Air Force flight missions in Southeast Asia were flown out of Guam.) So, recognizing some variances, it's easiest to consider ground soldiers of the Army and Marine Corps. Since all of South Vietnam was a combat zone, the key factor was time "in-country" -- that period between boots first stepping down on the tarmac to "wheels-up" at the end of a tour. But that in-country period did not translate directly into "combat time", which was more accurately a factor of one's military service and specialty; only about half of those who served in Vietnam were routinely exposed to the dangers of combat. For most of its personnel as the steady build-up progressed, Army eventually established the in-country tour length at 12 months. This required tour length applied to both enlisted men and commissioned officers, and equally to Regular, Reserve and National Guard soldiers. The Marines were required to serve 6-month tours, but were given incentives to serve for 13-months; most did. But the Army and Marine Corps also had programs where, if you were willing to extend your tour an additional 6 months, they would give you a free leave of 30 days in between the two tours, flying you anywhere you wanted to spend it free of charge. The flight time didn't count towards those thirty days, nor was the leave time credited towards your extra 6 months. The same applied to each successive six-month extension. These extension programs were usually more popular among headquarters administrative personnel or people who spent their entire tours on really huge fortified and very well-defended bases, than they were among infantrymen. Overly frequent rotation of forces is counter-productive and frequent rotation of forces is expensive; the objective was to find some middle ground between the wishes of the men and the requirements of the military mission. (By comparison, World War II soldiers served for the duration of the war, or until becoming casualties precluding a return to duty.) (Some Army and Navy special operations personnel such as Special Forces and SEALs served six month TDY tours (temporary duty, with different pay schedules) in country in succession. That is, a "green beret" might be on his "sixth straight tour", which meant that he had been in country for three straight years.) It's important to note that in Vietnam the Army rotated personnel, not units. The unit (i.e., an Army brigade, Marine battalion) was permanently based in-country, and individual soldiers were rotated in and out of country to and from that unit. (Today both services try to follow the traditional British regimental example. That is, both Army and Marines now try to rotate whole units, usually whole brigades, keeping members together as a cohesive unit from beginning to end of a combat tour in-country. This more expensive practice largely negates the possibility of individual tour extensions, but does significantly improve overall unit effectiveness.) For a deadly war that dragged on year after year, the practice of rotating individuals was not the best for unit morale, cohesion and effectiveness, but it was more cost effective. Still, until the Draft ended in 1975, ground soldiers were widely considered, even in the military, as just more mechanical widgets in the grand scheme of things, to be plugged in like interchangeable nuts and bolts where and when needed. (There remains among certain naive or arrogant civilian quarters a continued tendency to view soldiers in such a demeaning manner, through talk of inanimate "troops", etc., even though, in a modern all-volunteer military, 80% of American citizens in their age group cannot qualify for service in today's rather well compensated Regular Army. It's a very different military force today.) Combat units in Vietnam tried to follow as best they could a practice of not committing personnel or small units to constant combat situations for longer than six months. So a man or his squad ideally might be deployed "out in the boonies" for six months before being pulled back to headquarters base camp for the remaining six months of his one-year tour. But, due to constant high casualties and inherent mission requirements, it rarely worked out so neatly. (Greatly improved body armor and improved medical capabilities today result in far fewer disabling injuries and deaths from wounds than was the case in Vietnam; this naturally results in significantly less personnel turn-over today.) In Vietnam you simply never wanted to send out a "green" squad for six months with no experienced personnel in it. And employing soldiers in static defense at base camp or around a civilian town certainly did not ensure that they would not come under deadly attack. For ground combat personnel like Army infantry and Marines, where casualties were highest (in Vietnam 92%, today 98%), the limited year-long tours were a mixed blessing. As was the practice in all American wars up to 1975, most combat ground soldiers during the Vietnam era were involuntarily drafted, very young, single men, and the limit on tour lengths in Vietnam helped ensure that they would not be dumped into endless war and forgotten. After all, regardless of what credentials they bought to the table, and very many of them had undergraduate and graduate degrees, their "grateful nation" felt that their lives were worth a basic pay of only $2.00 for each day they managed to survive in-country. On the other hand, the one-year tours also gave rise to a situation where almost half of American combat forces in theater were always rather new and inexperienced individual soldiers, while their enemy, who kept going at it as a small unit year after year, grew ever more expert and effective at his job for as long as he remained alive - on his own turf. This had an inherent propensity to raise US casualties. So, for US combat personnel such as infantry, placing limits on tour lengths in an unconventional war that never showed signs of ending, especially one that was quite unpopular among Americans, had both very real positive and very real negative consequences. And there was another aspect that remains important although nebulous: The tour limits gave rise to "short-timer" calendars that ticked off the remaining days a man had to remain in country; the 180-day mid-point was the tipping point for Army soldiers, and a man's calendar gradually affected his thinking about what he was doing. If the war never ended, at least the "short-timer" calendar did - IF the soldier could remain alive long enough to check off that last day. And the closer he got to that last day, the more important it became to him that he stay alive by avoiding dangerous situations as much as possible. Individual survivability eventually competes with, and might even supersede, military mission - a tendency better balanced by rotating whole units despite the extra cost. The psychological effect of "short-timer" calendars in such a constant unconventional warfare environment gradually got blurred with "combat fatigue" and "burn-out", so that it was nearly impossible to distinguish one from the other or to sort out what was actually going on in a man's mind. Nor was the psychological aspect of the soldier viewed at that time worth even considering; at the end of the year, most surviving and mobile Army draftees were simply flown back to the US and mustered out of service, a jungle-to-street journey that rarely took longer than 24 hours. These were the human male widgets who somehow engendered the women's "liberation" movement in America. With all of that having been said, it was still possible for Army and Marine career soldiers to serve two, three or four tours "in-country", each separated by a period of assignment outside Vietnam or back in CONUS (Continental US). And some of those tours could have been for periods longer than 12 months. Army personnel are authorized to wear on the right lower jacket sleeve one perpendicular golden hash mark for each six months served in a combat zone; it was not uncommon during the Vietnam era to see professional Special Forces men with as many as ten of these hash marks on their uniforms. It should be noted that most practices with male soldiers in Vietnam, with the exception of tour length limits, pretty much mirrored practices throughout 200 years of American history before 1975. Following on centuries of practices of European monarchies, there had always been a certain "expendable" aspect to American soldiering. Today we fight wars more intelligently, with the knowledge that ground soldiers are actually valuable assets and that all other military assets exist to support their enormously complex and incredibly dangerous mission among other humans on the ground. Unfortunately, the US military doesn't have half the number of ground soldiers to execute properly the various missions that today's politicians want it to execute, tour limits or not, but the politicians still prefer to pour taxpayer money into unnecessary military toys intended for conventional warfare that generate civilian jobs and votes back home, while hoping that American ground soldiers thrown into any situation will eventually figure out how to solve it. European politicians play the same game with American soldiers and taxpayers, placing far greater burdens on Americans than they are willing to deliver as equitable "allies". Naval shore personnel generally served one year tours such as at NSA Danang. Navy Seabees served from six months to ten months or more with a Mobile Construction Battalion. If Seabees were assigned to a shore activity, generally they stayed a year. Brown water sailors usually served a year tour, but could be more or less. Seabees could extend with relieving battalion and stay anywhere from eight to twenty months depending on the battalions work schedule. I have heard of Seabees doing four tours with battalions, or a tour or two with a battalion and another with a shore station such as NSA Danang. Navy Corpsmen serving with Marines generally did thirteen month tours, same as Marines. Some Seabees served aboard ships in the Yellow Sea patrolling the coastline. These Bees served as long as the ship stayed on station. Footnotes: 1. Vietnam was an unconventional war, fought in a set geographical space over a very long period. It began under President Eisenhower with the introduction of the 1 st Special Forces Group in 1957 (900 in 1961), increased under President Kennedy (16,000 in 1963), and escalated dramatically under President Johnson (543,482 in 1969); official US military involvement in Vietnam ended 16 years later under President Nixon with the withdrawal of the last US military forces in 1973. Over those 16 years, a total of 2,644,000 American military members served in-country in Vietnam, about half of whom (1.3 million) were routinely exposed to combat and 80% of whom had at least a high school diploma. Only about 29% of those serving on US military active duty during the period actually saw service in Vietnam; 71% did not. Of the 1.73 million men drafted during the period (only 2.5% into the Marine Corps), just 38% actually served in Vietnam. About 25% of those serving in-country were ground forces draftees, and they accounted for 30.4% of combat deaths, but it's not known how many men volunteered to avoid being drafted. The war, which had an overall US casualty rate of about 13.7%, resulted in 58,202 Americans killed, 1,700 missing and 303,635 wounded. (South Vietnamese military losses were 3.8 times larger in all categories.) 2. The war was mostly static, rather than fluid (as was, say, the global WW II). Static unconventional wars that go on and on are very different from conventional wars that are continually driving to some clear conclusion as rapidly as possible. (The first three weeks of the Iraq War, for example, were entirely conventional fluid attack, and then immediately shifted to unconventional static occupation, but without adequate and appropriate US personnel and equipment for unconventional warfare / military occupation, including counter-insurgency, reconstruction, and stability operations.) The two types of war are almost exact opposites, requiring very different expertise, equipment and configuration; fluid conventional is all about offense, about destroying things and killing people, while static unconventional is all about defense, about building things and helping people. (Because of very significant ground forces personnel shortfalls, today's American super-soldiers are expected to shift from offense to defense and back to offense on a dime without missing a beat; most consider that expectation unrealistically naÃ¯ve in an environment where a single mistake in a half second can result in death. Americans would never consider asking their professional football teams to do that in a completely safe and controlled environment.) Static unconventional wars place much more emphasis on defending stationary base camps and civilian populations, a "backward leaning" requirement that draws huge numbers of soldiers away from performing "forward leaning" aggressive attack against moving enemy targets. In Vietnam, American forces had to commit many more soldiers to static defense than it could commit to fluid offense. So it was highly likely that a combat soldier would be employed in both roles (offense and defense, within an unconventional environment) during his 12-month in-country tour, and very often one role was just as dangerous as the other. (MORE)
Answer . The most tours of duty in the Vietnam war is 27 by MichaelBadnarik. Mr.Badnarik was also the Libertarian Candidate forPresident in the 2004 election. He had 113 confirmed kills. Answer . I do not see how this could be true, since Mr. Badnarik was bornin 1956. Answer . Or that a tour in… Vietnam was 12 months, and the Vietnam Wardidn't last 27 years. Answer . Or that Michael Badnarik was never in the military in the firstplace. (MORE)
I don't have precise figures but yes there were a significant number of men, on both sides, who served in both wars. Michael Montagne yes, general MacArthur would be the most famous example. Mc Arthur wasn?t alone. Add several thousand German soldiers born in the late 1890?s. They most likely fo…ught as young men in WW1 and saw action in WW2 as reservists. As far as I know they had to serve in the reserve until the age of 45. Two men just as famous - more famous in Europe actually - are Fieldmarshalls Rommel and Montgomery, Germany and Britain respectivly Me dad's granddad has medals from both wars :D Gen Rommel recruited Veterans of WW I who had joined the French foreign legion. When the Germans invaded Poland the western front was manned by WW I vets. Just to name a few, German General Rommel and Herman Goering wore a Blue Max medal, which was awarded to them in WW1. This was a Prussian medal that was not issued in WW2. (MORE)
Answer . 88.4%. Less than 30% per Michael Kelley, Myths and Misconceptions: Vietnam War Folklore, 1998.
US Vietnam Veterans, as well as all US veterans have access to VA medical facilities, counselling, and receive educational benefits for trade schools and colleges, home loans.
This is a question best left to the bar at the local VFW or American Legion. Is an "eye ball to eye ball" confrontation required? Perhaps you need a knife fight in the dark of night. Some are convinced that the mandatory minimum is to pull the trigger on an enemy you can see. That would rule out man…y of the most importand weapons of any war like mortars, artillery, naval gunfire or clicking off a claymore in the middle of the night when you hear something while on guard duty. Are fighter pilots the only ones involved in aerial combat? What about the people loading and firing the weapons aboard a "Spooky" or "Spectre" who are also firing blind. Nope, moments of personal mortal combat will always exist in warfare, but the definition of warfare and combat must now include all supporting arms, those who support the supporting arms by providing the beans, bullets and bandaids that win the fight, that win the battle and that win the wars. Not only the transport pilot and the loadmaster, not just the PT Boat or the Destroyer but the Fleet Oiler are at war and are in active combat and deserve the full honors to which they are entitled. Bless them all. (MORE)
In the beginning for a few years it was only 6 months......later it was extended to 1 year
Over 2 1/2 million US servicemen fought in Vietnam. How many were KIA, MIA or WIA?
US Servicemen served in the US Armed Forces for the DURATION during WWII. After WWII, studies were done on combat fatique, along with a host of other experiences from WWII.. General Harold K. Johnson, US Army Chief of Staff during the early Vietnam War years had been a POW & survived the Bataan Dea…th March during WWII (against Japan). His experience, combined with post WWII studies showed that the average US Fighting Man "burned out" after 180 days in a "hostile environment.". During the Korean War (1950-1953), Congress allowed US Servicemen (draftees) to serve only 24 months of active duty (verses WWII's DURATION of the war). This meant that a drafted serviceman could only serve ONE YEAR in a combat zone, because: When you subtract his induction, training, leave time, and transit time; the government's already used up more than half a year of the draftee's 2 years on active duty.. During the Vietnam War, approximately 40,000 men a month were being drafted into the US Military. In order to "feed the beast" of Vietnam, those many men had to be fed into it, in order for the 12 month rotations to work. Because of the 180 day burn out factor, the Army Chief of Staff did not want to lengthen the 12 month tours. The US had a nearly unlimited pool of potential conscripts (draftees), and the general staff and congress wanted to "share the burden" with all potential conscripts by keeping the 12 month tour. Making it a longer tour, would only make it harder on the men in Vietnam while those that WERE NOT serving, could avoid combat. (MORE)
Approximately 1900 US servicemen are unaccounted for. Currently, there are Embassy Guard U.S. Marines and U.S. Military Liaison servicemen and women at the U.S. Embassy in HaNoi and at the U.S.Consulate in Ho Chi Minh City. Additionally, a team of crash site and burial site investigators based in …Hawaii travel to Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia regularly in search of U.S. military remains. (MORE)
Small white tablets were issued for daily consumption; large tan colored pills were issued for once a week consumption (all for Malaria Control). Neither drug was adhered to on a regular basis by the majority of US personnel, while in country.
86% of the men who died in Vietnam were Caucasians, 12.5% were black, 1.2% were other races
With the possible exception of US Navy surface fleet officers, US Navy Swift Boat officers performed 1 year tours in South Vietnam. US Army officers conducted one year tours in RVN but generally only 6 months IN THE FIELD; then they were rotated to staff positions in the rear. But they still did 1 y…ear in country. (MORE)
The US Navy had two navies during the Vietnam War: the Brown Water Navy and the regular fleet. The Brown Water Navy was the "Riverine Forces", consisting of Swift Boats (PCF-Patrol Craft Fast), PBR's (Patrol Boat River), Alpha Boats (ASPB-Assault Support Patrol Boats), and Monitors (River Battleship…s).. The US Navy Fleet warships consisted of Aircraft Carriers, one Battleship (USS New Jersey with 16" guns), Cruisers (6" guns for Light Cruisers, 8" guns for Heavy Cruisers) and Destroyers.. Fleet warships "normally" conducted WESTPAC cruises (Western Pacific); for US Destroyers (5" guns) they worked the "Gun Line" off the coasts of North & South Vietnam. The Gun Line consisted of firing onto enemy targets along the coastline, often engaging Communist Shore Batteries. Normally WESTPAC cruises lasted about 6 months, thru rotations.. US Warships working the Gun Line and supplying Air Strikes North of the DMZ were called YANKEE STATION. South of the DMZ was DIXIE STATION. (MORE)
Vietnam is a communist country. US forces are not allowed there. However, US veterans visit Vietnam as tourists every year.
Because Vietnam just had a fight so the united states sent some troops to Vietnam to guard the boarder. Even before it fell to communism Truman and written up a policy of containment called the Truman Doctrine which stated that the USA would help any country being threatened by communism Because no…rth Vietnam attacked an American destroyer off the bay of Tonkin this gave LBJ a good enough reason to get the permission of congress to invade Vietnam also they didn't want south Vietnam to fall to communism as they believed that if S. Vietnam fell it would start a domino reaction that would cause more countries in Asia to become communist. Another reason was that jfk had been sending in "military advisors" into Vietnam for years and he wanted to step up what JFK had already done. Before he sent in troops he launched Operation rolling thunder which was bombing runs on major N. Vietnamese cities and factories to prevent them from supplying the Vietcong.. (MORE)
During the Vietnam War; over 3 million men served in SE Asia during the war; 2 1/2 million men served in country.
The "Iowa" class battleship, USS New Jersey; 16" guns. The battleship was requested by the military to reduce jet aircraft losses over North & South Vietnam. Each rifle (16" barrel) delivered the equivalent of ONE 2,000 pound bomb. One salvo (9 rifles firing one broadside, from three separate turret…s) was equal to 9 one ton bombs dropped by jet aircraft.. By using the battleship, 9 bombs (16" shells) could be delivered to target; no jet would be lost; and no pilot would be killed or captured (POW-Prisoner of War). (MORE)
Are there any fast downloadable war games besides combat arms soldier front battlefield Vietnam or counter strike?
Americas Army, takes about an hour if you have cable. But definitely worth the wait. The graphics can be compared to Call of Duty 4 graphics. Awesome game, I play it all the time. If you want to download it all you have to do is go to AmericasArmy.com then go under the tab [downloads] then click on …filefront to install. (MORE)
My father served from beginning to end in WWII, but he wasn't in combat much. I expect that was a typical experience for most soldiers. No soldier in any war is 'in combat' all the time, i.e. actually fighting the enemy.
Is there a complete list of soldiers in 269th combat aviation battalion3rd platoon that served in Vietnam in 1967-68?
Do you mean in Headquarters company or 3rd platoon in some other company? Actually it probably doesn't matter. No master list is maintained of any company, let a lone a platoon.
Prior to 1964, it wasn't either clear or possibly "confirmed" that the army of North Vietnam was commencing combat in the "Republic of South Vietnam." Just fighting local guerrillas (Viet Cong) seemed to be the norm. After the Tonkin Gulf incident, it was clear then...kind of hard to hide Torpedo Bo…ats on the surface of the water (couldn't blame the VC for that attack). Now that North Vietnam clearly attacked the US Navy, the US opened "conventional" counter-attacks upon North Vietnam. The Tonkin Gulf "Incident" was the signal to commence open hostilities on each other (US vs North VN). (MORE)
1. Air War over North Vietnam (MIGS vs US JETS). 2. Land/Ground War in South Vietnam (Patton tanks and ACAVs). 3. Riverine War in South Vietnam. (Swift Boats & Monitors)
The Vietnam War has been described as a "kaleidoscope", meaning continuously changing. Examples: up until about 1966, South Vietnam was covered with CH-21 Shawnee and CH-34 Choctaw helicopters and GIs carrying M14 rifles; shoulder patches were bright colored, sergeant strips were bright yellow in co…lor, and the US Army name tag was yellow. White stars and US red white and blue national insignia were on the helicopters and jets. After about '66, M14 rifles were gone, in their place were M16s; name insignia, national insignias, sergeant stripes, shoulder patches...all turned black (called subdued). Only the "white star" remained on the tanks, trucks, etc. CH-21s and CH-34 helicopters disappeared...new men arriving in country saw only UH-1 Iroquois (Hueys) and CH-47 Chinooks into the 1970's.. From about 1969 until the end of the war, the average draftee GI tended to be around 19 thru 23. Marines tended to be younger; if the man was 18 he was probably a volunteer (RA), because the draft boards normally only hit the 19 year olds and up. If the man was above 25 he may have re-enlisted when his original service time expired.. As noted in the first paragraph, times may have been different prior to '69. (MORE)
Very very common. But one must be careful when using that word "tour." It might be different in the Marine Corps or Navy or Air Force. In the US Army the first tour was a year (12 months). After that, they were in six month increments. Therefore, if a vet says he did 3 tours with the US Army in… Vietnam, then that's only 2 years (12 months for the first tour, plus 6 months for the second tour, then 6 months for his third and last tour). And any man doing over 18 months with the US Army in Vietnam almost certainly had to have re-upped (re-enlisted), and was no longer a draftee. (MORE)
Society didn't really care...as long as society wasn't involved. Once members of "society" began to get drafted into the military system...then they got angry. (E.g. protests, riots, demonstrations, etc. etc. etc.).
First tour May-Oct '66; Second tour Jun-Nov '67. Item of note: LTjg William T. Patton flying a "Spad" (A1 Skyraider, propeller driven dive bomber), shot down a NVAF MiG17 during his carrier's (Intrepid) first tour. The ONLY Spad to make a solo jet kill; two other Skyraiders (from the USS Midway) s…hared an aerial victory against NVAF MiG-17s. . The Kondor Radio Control (R/C) model airplane company just came out with Patton's Skyraider in 2008. The flying model has a 70 inch wingspan and can be mounted with a 2 or 4 stroke glow fuel engine; the Spad is properly numbered with # 409 on the cowling. . The aircraft was also featured on the cover of "Model Airplane News" in the September 2008 issue. The cover photo shows Patton's A-1 diving, has his name on the cowling, and his "kill" insignia just below his canopy. (MORE)
Other branches may have been different. The US Army original tour was 12 months (drafted or volunteer/US or RA). Extensions in Vietnam were in 6 month increments after that original tour. Example: for a US Army serviceman; three tours would be only 2 years (12 months plus 6 months, plus 6 months aga…in=24 months=2 yrs). After your 12 month tour of duty, under normal circumstances, they couldn't make you stay any longer (other than admin errors, misc. etc.). However, there once was a GI frantically digging a hole at a firebase one night. When approached and asked why he was so "desperately digging", he replied with some anger, "you've never been over-run...have you!? (as he continued digging) "...well I have! In this very @@#@# spot! I was with the Marines...we got over run...everybody was shootin everybody...couldn't tell who was who...I never want to go thru that ##@# again! So I couldn't get a job when I got out...needed a job...so I joined the Army; knowing the army wouldn't send me back to this place...and what happens?! They send me back to this very same spot that we got over-run when I was a marine!" The moral of this incident, is this: sometimes a man volunteered for an extra tour of duty in Vietnam and didn't even know he did. (MORE)
For the US forces, about 88% were Caucasian, about 11% were Black, about 1% were other races. These percentages may vary from source to source.
Anywhere from 25,000 to 40,000 Canadians volunteered in the U.S. Armed Forces. This is according to several sites.
A man was inducted for 24 months. 6 for trng, 12 for Nam, and usually an early out if he did his job. If he didn't, or the army needed him, then he did the whole 2 yrs.
You're going to have to do the math. And here's the formula: Approximately 25,000 men (US) were in the field on any average given day. This does not count the men flying the combat aircraft (sorties over North Vietnam) nor does it count the US Sailors providing naval gunfire support from the gunli…ne off the coast of North & South Vietnam, nor does it count the over 475,000 men supporting those 25,000 men out in the boonies (jungles). Just guessing, that might come out to roughly 9,125,000 men in combat per year in Vietnam (or at least in the field). But obviouly that figure does not represent over 9 million men; it means the same men being used over and over again, such as: 25,000 men in the field for 30 days. For each day of those thirty days, there were those 25,000 men in the field. Since the height of the strangth was over 1/2 million men in 1968, using that approximate figure of 5 men to support one fighting man, one out of five (one hundred thousand out of five hundred thousand) were in the field (in combat) for that calender year. (MORE)
Short Answer: 12 to 15 Months Army with some units serving as few as eight and other units as long as 18 months , 6 Months Marines. Being an all volunteer force the Army wasn't under Congressional pressure to return conscripted citizens home by guaranteed deadlines as was the case during the Viet…nam and Korean Wars, because of this political reality units served "the needs of the Army" and were told usually the minimum amount of time they would spend in theater, not a guaranteed maximum. Tours could be, and were often extended. It was this extension of tour length that made the "Surge" of 2006 possible. The bulk of the "Surge" came from units already in Iraq being told they would not go home on schedule, not from fresh units arriving in theater. The wave of resentment that followed the extensions during the Summer of 2006 among the rank and file coupled with the use of "Stop Loss" was the precursor to the Secretary of the Army, Robert Gates, suggesting that the US Army would stick closer to tour lengths of 12 months. This proposal, however, was never codified, was not part of Congressional Law, or Executive Order, merely a strong recommendation. (MORE)
Very doubtful. Anyone old enough to serve in World War 1 would have been quite elderly by the time Vietnam began. Douglas MacArthur was a general in both world wars and Korea, but he was retired and died before regular US forces were committed to Vietnam.
The Vietnam War was the last war fought by WWII veterans. Nearly all of the career US military men in Vietnam over the age of forty were WWII and/or Korean War vets. Col Robin Olds shot down German fighters over Germany in WWII, then shot down 4 North Vietnamese Air Force MiGs over North Vietnam. G…en Westmoreland served with the 9th ID in Europe during WWII. Gen Abrams fought in Europe under Gen Patton in WWII. Gen Curtis LeMay led the Army Air Force over Japan in WWII. The average GI in Vietnam (ages 17 thru 30) were too young to have fought in Korea or WWII. Vietnam was their first war. (MORE)
The Vietnam War was one of the worst in American history. Combat inthe jungle was difficult, and it was hard to know who exactly wasthe enemy, since Vietnam had two different sides of the war aswell.
Yes, although the majority of units in Vietnam were active duty. Additionally, you would find instances of individual personnel being called up and reassigned to units in-country.
Those service personnel who lost their lives in service to their country were flown from South Vietnam to Dover , Delaware (Dover Air Force Base ; Charles C. Carson Center for Mortuary Affairs) for 'final' processing .
One year. If a man landed on the 4th of July, then he DEROs'd out on the 4th of July the following year. Draftees did 24 months in the OD (Olive Drab-slang at the time for the US Army, the most polite term at the time, there were worse terms). 6 months in trainging (boot & AIT) then 12 months in Vi…etnam, then an early ETS if he got a 6 month early out. Another words a draftee could end up doing only 18 months in the OD instead of the 24 months if he did Nam time. All depended on how the Army felt at the time and their need for men. The 12 month tour applied to volunteers, draftees, and draft enduced volunteers. US Sailors only did WESTPAC cruises. If their warship did 6 months over seas, then that was their tour. (MORE)
Combat tours in the Vietnam war may have varied in the different US branches (US Marines, US Sailors, US Airmen, US Coast Guardsmen). For US Soldiers the initial tour was 365 days (one year). Second and third tours were in 6 month increments. Another words a US Soldier who did 3 tours actually did 2… years. (MORE)
Unless corrected by someone, US Sailors conducted WESTPAC cruises, which may have lasted about 6 months on the gunline in Vietnam. Brown Water Navy sailors manning the Swift Boats and other riverine boats performed a regular 12 month tour. The USN was operating two separate navies in the Vietnam war…; Regular warships and riverine boats (officially classified as their "Brown Water Navy"). (MORE)
No. Unless he was later assigned to an INFANTRY unit and that unit (his unit) was directly involved with combat operations with a hostile enemy. "Only" during the Vietnam War could a GI with an artillery, armor, MP, engineer, etc. MOS obtain a CIB if he was assigned to a 11B (MOS) job in the US Inf…antry and engaged in combat with the enemy. A artilleryman, armor crewman (tank crewman), MP, etc. could be transfered to a grunt unit and end up in contact w/the enemy; WITHOUT his primary MOS being changed. Thus qualifying him to wear the CIB. The 11B (nicknamed 11Bullet Stopper in Vietnam) would or could be awarded as his secondary MOS. Regardless of the MOS change or not, if he was in a grunt outfit and he was in "enemy contact" with that outfit, he's awarded the CIB (on orders). After Vietnam the US Army took the MOS far more seriously and awarded it to only 11B men. But during the war men were needed everywhere all the time! Consequently the needs of the service came first and awards came after those needs were served. Another words after Vietnam "it took an act of congress" to pull a tanker off his machine and put him in another MOS, especially if he didn't like it. But during the war a man went where he was ordered...like it or not. (MORE)
US military pilots or aircrewmen flying combat aircraft in or over North/South Vietnam were combat troops. Just because a man operated a jet, helicopter, tank, swift boat, battleship, cruiser, destroyer, or artillery piece didn't mean he wasn't a "combat troop." A man didn't have to be an infantrym…an to qualify as a "combat troop." (MORE)
It could possible be Col. Richard Hatch. 40 years 8 months. He was an enlisted man, a warrant officer, and a regular commissioned officer.
US soldier as in US Army? Or US soldier being a generic term for any member of the US military? Because according to the President Ford administration, the last US fighting men killed in the Vietnam War weren't "Soldiers" at all...but United States Marines! Mayaquez incident May 1975.
During 1965 and 1966 when entire divisions were deployed to Vietnam, they traveled by troop ships. Individual replacements arrived on Air Force Military Airlift Command (MAC) contracted flights on commercial airlines - mostly in Boeing 707s. Medical evacuations from Vietnam were in C-141 cargo j…ets specially equipped for medical transport. Although entire units arrived in country early on together, they were replaced by individuals and when troops completed their 12 month tour, they flew home on the commercial MAC flights. Most of those flights were from the San Francisco or Oakland airports from the Oakland Replacement facility or Travis Air Force Base; or from Seattle-Tacoma airport from the replacement facility at Fort Lewis, Washington. In Vietnam, they landed at either Ton Son Nhut air base (which doubled as the Saigon Airport) or Cam Ranh Bay airbase. (MORE)
Small numbers of advisers and trainers 1959-1965. The major build up of Marine and Army Divisions came in 1965-66. The draw-down began in 1971, and all combat troops were out of the country by the end of April, 1973.
For Army and Air Force, 12 months. For Marine Corps and Navy, 13 months. There were changes to these lengths through the course of the war - spanning from 1959 to 1973 when U.S. forces left South Vietnam.
Made 4 "Wespac" tours and sent TAD to assist in different logisticassists to 3MAW on board and ashore. Average 9month tours.
Stop the spread of communism. The belief at the time was the "domino theory" which predicted thatif one nation fell to communist insurgency, then that would triggeranother to fall, then another, then another. So it was feltessential to prevent every possible advance of communism whereverit happened.… (MORE)