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How can you tell when a pathological liar is telling the truth?
The truth is in the details. When he (or she) includes numerous unrelated, small details that don't add any extra "luster" or "sparkle" to the story you're being told (remember, his story is being told to get something from you), chances are there's a shred of truth in them [in that portion of the story at least]. From there, the truth gets fuzzy as small details are abandoned to make room for the real drama; so masterfully told, as he sets the trap and you fall for it, taking the bait - hook, line and sinker.
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No. They don't even know what the truth is.
whats the difference.? once they give you two lies. dump him .don't let him get to 3. I was with a pathological liar and a scum bag. they never stop lying . I wasted my life f…or 6 years.
Pathological liars - or "mythomaniacs" - are people who engage in objectively puposeless story telling behavior. The stories they tell are not the products of delusions and se…rve no external purpose other than to inflate the value of the teller in the eyes of the listener. The actual existence of mythomania separate from other diagnoses as a symptom set is a controversial topic in the mental health field. The symptom set for Mythomania is strictly limited: 1) The subject is not delusional and the stories they tell are at least technically plausible. If the subject is actually delusional, a diagnosis of a condition with psychotic features is more appropriate. 2) The tendency to construct such stories is non-transient, and long lasting. The story telling behavior is an actual personality trail. 3) The tendency is clearly non-situational and the subjects motives are objectively internal. The stories are not lies told from fear, or to cover a long pattern of misconduct (spousal abusers and confidence tricksters for instance are not mythomaniacs although they often construct elaborate webs of lies for years to cover their abuse or trick their victims. Such lies are situational and objectively external. The abuser is attempting to evade punishment). 4) The stories tend to present the teller in an extremely positive light, but otherwise provide no material benefit to the teller. The story may suggest that the teller is intensely brave, wealthy or may know many famous people, but the teller derives no benefit from fostering this belief, other than people believing the story. The term is often misused to refer to those suffering from histrionic personality disorder or narcissistic personality disorder. The following comments basically reflect a pathological liar who has the characteristics of histrionic personality disorder. Some Characteristics : Exaggerates things that are ridiculous.One-upping. Whatever you do, this person can do it better. You will never top them in their own mind, because they have a concerted need to be better than everyone else. This also applies to being right. If you try to confront an individual like this, no matter how lovingly and well-intentioned you might be - this will probably not be effective. It's threatening their fantasy of themselves, so they would rather argue with you and bring out the sharp knives than admit that there's anything wrong with them.They "construct" a reality around themselves. They don't value the truth, especially if they don't see it as hurting anyone. If you call them on a lie and they are backed into a corner, they will act very defensively and say ugly things (most likely but depends on personality), but they may eventually start to act like, "Well, what's the difference? You're making a big deal out of nothing!" (again, to refocus the conversation to your wrongdoing instead of theirs).Because these people don't value honesty, a lot of times they will not value loyalty. So watch what you tell them. They will not only tell others, but they will embellish to make you look worse. Their loyalty is fleeting, and because they are insecure people, they will find solace in confiding to whomever is in their favor at the moment.They may be somewhat of a hypochondriac. This can come in especially useful when caught in a lie, for example, they can claim that they have been sick, or that there's some mysteriously "illness" that has them all stressed out. It's another excuse tool for their behavior.Obviously, they will contradict what they say. This will become very clear over time. They usually aren't smart enough to keep track of so many lies (who would be?). Another Wiki s contributor adds: They lie about even the smallest things. For example, saying "I brushed my teeth today," when they didn't.They add exaggerations to every sentence.They change their story all the time.They act very defensively when you question their statements.They believe what they say is true, when everyone else knows it isn't. An alternate 'checklist': Lies when it is very easy to tell the truth.Lies to get sympathy, to look better, to save their butt, etc.Fools people at first but once they get to know him, no one believes anything they ever say.May have a personality disorder.Extremely manipulative.Has been caught in lies repeatedly.Never fesses up to the lies.Is a legend in their own mind. More opinions and input from Wiki s contributors: I have found a few differences in pathological liar and a "slime ball" liar. Pathological liars cannot tell that they are lying; they actually believe the lie as soon as it comes out of their mouth. They lie about unimportant things that don't really matter to anyone. This can be caused by mental defect but isn't always. Slime-ball liars lie about things that make them look better or embellish to get attention. They also lie to keep their butts out of trouble and to get what they want.Here are things to ask yourself: How could this many things happen to one person? Would believe these stories if someone else told you? Think back to the beginning: you had red flags and alarms going off in you head. Learn to trust your instincts.It is very hard to tell when one is a pathological liar. Some people just are liars and lie to lie because they can and they don't care about getting caught and aware that you know they have lied. These people care not about lying, it's no big deal. It's like "ok, so what? I lied". The pathological liar on the other hand, IS aware that they are lying BUT will go to extremes to make you believe that they are truthful. They appear to believe their own lies BUT in truth, they know their lies are just that, lies. But because their efforts are constantly backing up their lies, it appears to us that they actually believe their lies, when we eventually do find out about them and then we tend to feel sorry for these people. Then they have an excuse, "I am sick, I don't know why I lie, I believed what I was saying etc." The only truth was the fact that they don't know why they lie. Other than that it's crap. It is true that most of them have an extremely low sense of self worth and are continuously trying to make themselves feel better about THEMSELVES and this is one reason they lie. It is about them but the lies are not always set up with the purpose to hurt some one else; it's that these people feel so low about themselves they need to create ANYTHING different from the ugly reality they feel about themselves so they lie about even the most tiniest little thing. The people closest to them get sucked into these lies which sometimes start as something very trivial and then turn into something that can turn everyone involved worlds upside down and inside out.Unmasking the pathological liar is an easier task when the pathological liar is no more than a casual acquaintence to the "un-masker." Close relationships provide camouflage for the pathological liar, and intimacy provides a heavily-fortressed breeding ground.Other indicators: 1) Rage attacks after they realize you're questioning their lies. 2) Distraction techniques, e.g. hanging up the phone when you catch them in lie, playing word games, or even just running out of the room. After using the distraction technique, or rage attack, or sometimes both, they will pretend that nothing ever happened. They re-write history, so it never did happen in their minds. Normal people do it too, but these people take it to the extreme.From "Go Ask Alice": Lies are unplanned and impulsive. Behavior is repeated over a long period of time. Lies don't seem to exist for any external reason. Behavior may not always be a conscious act. Lies are admitted, changed, and/or adapted if a false story is challenged.From Andrea Broadbent "The Truth about Truman": To begin, the definition of pathological actually means abnormal or grossly atypical. Therefore, a pathological liar prevaricates more frequently than the average person or tells more abnormal lies. In most cases, pathological liars tell lies that are "unplanned and impulsive" (Hausman). These lies are usually very emotional stories that tend to serve no purpose except to impress people (Ford 133). As of now, psychiatrists are unsure whether or not pathological liars are fully capable of realizing if and when they are lying, so detecting whether or not a person is a pathological liar is a very difficult task (Hausman). By looking at the list of conditions commonly connected with people considered to be pathological liars, psychiatrists are better able to determine whether or not a person might actually have the disorder. Some main qualities linked with pathological liars include dysfunctional family origin, family lying patterns, anomalies of sexual life, frequent substance abuse, and a great capacity for language.From Raymond Lloyd Richmond, Ph.D. "Psychological Honesty": Even a pathological liar carries deep in his heart a desire for goodness and honesty and yet, because of painful emotional wounds, believes that the world never has, and never will, recognize his pain. And so, to hide that pain from himself, he uses all the lies he can concoct to hurl at the world as he runs in fear from his own goodness.For me, the first indication has been that I hear them tell different things to different people and they can't all be right, because they directly contradict each other! And I am able to prove it. If you can prove over and over again that things someone is telling you are outright false, then you have a pathological liar on your hands.With the Internet, it is now easier than ever to "fact-check" even the most mundane things. I think pathological liars often lose track of all of the lies they tell different people and it will eventually catch up with them.
Don't fall into the trap of trying to label yourself or someone else and treating mental health issues like physical disease. If you lie and that behavior is pathological (cau…ses problems in your life or in the lives of those you care for) you need to address that issue. If someone has been taught by their family to lie from childhood on, it is very likely that they will grow up to be a "pathological liar" and a "compulsive liar" because they simply don't value truth and don't get the connecton between their lies and problems they create. A compulsive liar is probably also "pathological". It's hard to imagine a complusive liar that wouldn't cause problems for themselves or someone else. The distinction isn't clear and neither term has a clear, distinct diagnosis. If you suspect you are one, then you're most likely not. Compulsive, may be a more apt description for you. A 'pathological liar' tends to believe his or her lies; lies to make himself look better or superior, or to draw attention to himself. It's got a lot to do with self-esteem, I believe. Often narcissists are 'pathological liars.' A compulsive liar just feels 'compelled' to lie. Just like a compulsive eater, can't control their eating habits. It's still a disorder and can cause you no end of trouble. But therapy or even just a support group can help. If you recognize that your behavior is not normal, then you are already on the right track. I just ended an 8 yr relationship with someone who is a pathological liar . From the beginning , he had cheated on his wife, and of course it was all her fault. He had married her only because it was the thing to do at the time. This was the beginning of the lies, I was kept away from his family , because I was the one who he left his wife for. It was lies about why I could not see his children , or come over when he had the kids. Working late , all the time , or constantly working on the house, He never could complete a project without it taking forever, because he lied about actually doing it. I found out , when his fiancee called me, his girlfriend of 8 yrs and asked who I was. She had been with him a year and a half. No wonder he was always busy or working late, or he also said his daughter needed therapy, she was deeply disturbed, I can imagine. When he got caught that day, he asked me how we could do this to him. I honestly think he believed all the lies he had told both of us. His fiancee called me later that night and said she had dumped him. I told her she could have him, now i know why my friends, family and co workers all thought he was a liar. He did not want to get to know any of them. I believe she is still with him , because his lies are so convincing , I,m sure she will find out in the end , as I and his wife did , I feel sorry for her. But I know he is not going to change or get the help he needs, because he believes what he is saying is true. My brother lies about the silliest things-constantly. He usually does it so as to not hurt someones feelings. Even tho if he told the truth, he would save himself sooo much trouble. He really means well. So now that I have a friend that constantly lies to me about everything under the sun, I try to keep a little patience-Hoping she is the same as my brother. Trying to not hurt my feelings or embarrass herself. I now read between the lines of what anyone tells me. I expect everyone to be like him and to an extent-most people do lie-a lot, for no reason. It's just a part of their life. I try so hard not to lie seeing it all the time that I have been told that I am hurtfully truthful. I don't know which is better. . . to lie or not to lie. You wont be a pathological liar for that matter. But if you are talking about someone else, then yeah sure. People tend to lie a lot and little do they realize. But sometimes they DO realize and DO know that they are lying, you will hear them say "My lies don't harm anyone, really" or something to tht effect. While a liar's lies may not harm 'anyone' they do no good either, and it hurts to know the truth later on simply because it had been delayed for NO good reason in the victim's mind.
Answer I would have to say that you just have to be around them long enough. Check out what they say to you. Ask about what they said earlier. Eventually they will star…t tripping themselves up. They will eventually forget what they told to whom. Hope this helps you some.
look deeply in his/her eyes. if its suspicious, then he/she might be lying. look at his/her body language, if he/she is doing something/moving it he/she might be lying. If the…y are rubbing their nose or face they are definitely lying. These techniques work for some people, some times. Pathological liars and very experienced liars are very, very good at making you believe them. People with certain conditions will always appear to be lying with these techniques. People with Asperger's Syndrome or Autism Spectrum Disorder are almost completely unable to look into your eyes while talking. People (like this writer) who have difficulty focusing their eyes up close cannot sustain a long look into someone's eyes. If you believe that you cannot trust someone, you should not be with them. A healthy relationship is not built on fear, distrust, jealousy.
Take everything that they say with a grain of salt.(Don't believe anything they say) To get them help, you can call your local mental health clinic and they should be able to …evaluate them and get them treated. The question is: What can you do for the VICTIMS of pathological liars? since there is NOTHING you can do for the pathological liar. In fact, the more you try to help them, the more they use THAT information to become better liars. PLEASE keep an eye on them and who they're conning. They can be VERY destructive. They can ruin peoples' lives, and if allowed to impregnate someone, or become impregnated BY someone, may VERY WELL produce another offspring who will leave more distruction in their path for the next generation and the next generation ad infinitium.............Do not allow them to reproduce at all costs.
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Answer If you have to ask you already know do yourself a favor and move on trust is a must
Pathological liars are those who tell lies at every given opportunity and it is a way of life for them. As such, pathological liars never tell the truth because they are i…ncapable of doing so.
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Yes. Dr. Hare talks about this in 'Without Conscience'
Usually they can look you in the eyes and tell you. If you think they're lying keep asking questions and see if they change the story. Or say the same thing
Usually compulsive liars are not confident individuals and they feel the need to dramatize certain events in their lives to impress others. These are some of the signs of a c…ompulsive liar: If the compulsive liar did something wrong and someone else found out they'd lie their way out of it. Telling others about things in their life that didn't happen. Dramatizing events in their life that didn't go down the way it did. Lying over silly things such as borrowing something from someone and denying they ever had it. Lying about other people. Constantly blaming others for the problems one gets themselves into. These are but a few. If a person has been told they are a compulsive liar they probably are. Compulsive liars often don't mean to be this way, so professional help does help them balance out their lives, face themselves and not be afraid of being who they are or telling the truth and taking the consequences for their own actions. Marcy
You can't all you can do is trust or not trust