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To what extent were women in the 1950's second class citizens?
They were not Second Class Citizens If you mean the USA, they were definitely not. Do you know any women who were wives and mothers during the 1950s? I do. Both my grandmothers had more character and remarkable values than any woman I meet in my daily life today, in 2004. Neither of them ever worked outside the home, and one of them never had any desire to drive a car. They BOTH stayed married all their lives -- no divorce -- and raised 3 children, and 5 children, respectively, who are productive citizens with no criminal record. That is FIRST CLASS in my book! Being a woman, instead of the "modern" definition of indoctrinated feminism -- that is, trying to be a man -- is NOT "second class" in any way! It is simply being a WOMAN as nature intended! (A healthy caution: Don't let Western-based "political correctness" color your thinking, your family life, or your questions or education!) If you mean in some other country ... you should look into the situation in The Sudan, where slavery is still practiced. Yes They Were Use your imagination! Check how things are now at the related web link to UN Statistics, and think whether things were better then. I assume you are young. Those of us with long memories know the answer. Literacy? Why waste that on girls? Much of the world doesn't educate girls to the same extent as boys (twice as many girls as boys do not get to school at all). Does you mother have more academic qualifications than your father? How many couples do you know aged over 50 which have a wife more educated than her husband? How else can you check on the 1950s? How many senior women on your local university staff? -- the proportion can be argued to be caused by a mix of past prejudice and more recent barriers. And try asking older school teachers about who studied for teaching certificates and who studied for degrees and got paid more. Could a woman of the 50s get a paying job, and what proportion of a man's wages would she be paid? Being born female is very expensive now in terms of the �gender pay gap�, but in the 1950s many more women would not have had any opportunity to earn their own money. (And some women teachers were still required to resign on marriage, even in the US and Europe.) Being totally dependent on the money handed to you by your husband or father is pretty second-class, however often you are told that homemaking is a praiseworthy thing to do. (An immigrant to the UK explained "We treat our mother with too much honour to expect her to walk through the streets, we do all the errands like shopping for her, while she stays safely at home" -- would you enjoy that sort of "honouring" in a virtual prison?) Of course there was and is plenty of unpaid work for women. Current estimates are that women work 60% of all hours worked in the world, and earn 10% of all wages paid. (It's not all housework -- many women feed their families through subsistence farming.) Some women of the 1950s might have thought that to be merely "second" class would be a great improvement -- and people still may. Have you read the Anti-Slavery League website? Let us celebrate the fact that these days greater efforts are being made to prevent forced marriages. Since the 1950s, women have gained equal voting rights in another 10 countries, though there are still 5 where they are legally second-class citizens in this respect. The number of women holding elected office was very low in the 50s -- how do you rate it now? There is another drastic result of being treated as second-class. Without free medical care, women become disabled and die prematurely at much higher rates than the men. Girl babies are actually healthier than boys, this is about allocation of resources -- both within the family and within the state. In the 1950s there were a few countries which had universal free medical care, but the national US schemes for the poor and elderly were only started in the mid 1960s. (Most beneficiaries of those US schemes are women -- and the money allocation for them is being cut. The UN says �the great majority� of those living in poverty are women. Not first-class, for sure.) Even at home! Do you know families with teenagers where the boys get better treatment than the girls -- it was standard across the world in the 50s? Do you know people where the title "head of the family" is still taken seriously, as it often was even in "western" democracies in the 1950s? Would you rate those women "second-class" or not? Have you ever considered that public transport is a "women's issue"? Who drives cars and who rides the bus? And in the 1950s, who walked for miles? Even at school! Did your mother go to a girls-only school? Find someone who did more than about 30 years ago, and ask them about the quality of the science teaching. In some mixed schools there were subjects which girls were not allowed to take � not just carpentry, but also technical drawing etc. Things are better now, but despite the publicity about inadvertent discrimination, try counting who still gets most of the attention in a mixed classroom. In the 1950s many more boys than girls went to university -- this is one of the clearest improvements over the years, in many different countries. Going back a bit further than the 50s, do you know why Ottawa has a big statue of women apparently holding a tea party? Read "Background Information" at the bottom of the link to BPW Canada. Yes, women were second-class citizens in the 1950s. What is a fair test to decide whether at least some of them still are in your community? If you are feeling strong, try this the web link to the UNICEF Report called "The intolerable status quo: Violence against women and girls" I totally agree with the second poster and I grew up in the 40s and was a teen in the 50s. Below is a quote taken from some of my research on American/Canadian families: "Women who failed to conform to the June Cleaver/Margaret Anderson role of housewife and mother were severely criticized. A 1947 bestselling book, The Modern Woman, called feminism a "deep illness," labeled the idea of an independent woman a "contradiction in terms," and explained that women who wanted equal pay and equal educational opportunities were engaged in a "ritualistic castration" of men. Women were often denied the right to serve on juries, convey property, make contracts (including leases on apartments), and establish credit in their own names (including mortgages and credit cards)." That's just the start! I am Canadian and there is really no difference between us and the American culture with the exception of the U.S. being a much older country rich in history, more population and more money. When I started high school in the late 1950s I took "Home Economics" and was given this booklet to live my life by and this is exactly what was in it: A woman should clean the house every single day, look after the children, do the yard work and have time to put on her perky house dress and pearls (real or not) and be attractive for her husband when he came home from work and not moan and groan if he had a friend with him and hadn't bothered to phone you first to warn you. YOU WERE TO FETCH HIS SLIPPERS AND GIVE HIM HIS PIPE OR LIGHT A CIGARETTE FOR HIM! I nearly popped my bobby socks when I read that one! Was I a dog? I din thin so! A woman was to accommodate her husband in every way no matter how tired or ill she was. After all, her husband was out busting his buns for the family. Why? Simply because women weren't considered good material for being out in the workforce. Oh yes, there were the choices of being a teacher, nurse, airline stewardess or secretary. We were taught to sew and cook (that's OK by me) but I refused to abide by those rules even back then and I was no one's dawg! I felt even then that men and women should be equal and respectful of each other and yes, I got into lots of trouble for sounding off in all the wrong place, but have never regretted it. In time, it landed me good jobs that some men would have loved to have had. I worked during the late 1950s and up as a Secretary and even in 1972 when I worked for an oil company I had to learn the hard computers (not these easy ones we have today) and they filled walls upon walls. It took months of hard work to learn that computer and I worked along side a very nice man. When we learned all there was to know about it he got a hefty pay check and a hefty raise. I looked at my pay check and saw nothing so I turned a shade of red that made me look like I was going to explode and raced into my boss. I demanded to know where my raise was. I was told I was not going to get one and when I asked why I was not given an answer. Even the fellow I worked with sided with me. We both had the same intellectual level and knew the same things, but I wasn't getting that raise. I took the risk and told them to stuff it and went back to my regular job. I got to stay, got a raise (not what I should have) but refused to work on those large computers. I made my statement and I was sticking to it. Alcoholism rose more than any other time in the 1950s (not even during the good old prohibition times or during and after WW2 was it as bad as the 50s) and abuse was much higher than it is today and women had to take it! I could go on and on about this and I have no idea where the first poster got their info, but I know it's not true. Women did not have the opportunities they have today (and they are still fighting for many rights they deserve) and no, I'm not a feminist at heart, but detest unfairness. If you can do the job then you should be paid for it. I do love my husband, and we share the housework because we both work. If he works over-time and I don't I have the respect to pick up the pace and so does he. Before purchasing a large item we discuss it and decide on it one way or the other. There is no disrespect between the two of us and I fought for that right from the 1950s and damned proud of it! I suggest for the first poster that you go on those sites the 2nd poster gave you and if you really want to get into the 1950s then try www.google.com and type in "American/Canadian family life in the 1950s." You'll really get a wake-up call. 1st Person I dont have anything to add to the second two nicely detailed answers but the first person obviously just took it personally and decided to defend herself as a woman and not actually use any factual data. And that is why i say: P -OWNED! ^^^ hahaha, sorry i really had to do that. (jonas brothers thing, you wouldn't understand)
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Yes they have. The have not been treated like women they have been treated like slaves.
becaues they was the best and the men are poo and the girls rule and that why we have a queen and that is why
A second-class citizen is a person who is systematically discriminated against within a state or other political jurisdiction , despite their nominal status as acitizen …or legal resident there.
Hitler did so at the meeting of the (nominated, unelected) Reichtag held at Nuremberg in 1935. Please see related question.
The Samaritan were the inhabitants of Samaria, the province that had been the (northern) Kingdom of Israel. They thought of themselves as the descendants of the original Israe…lites, while the Jews believed that they were a mixture of pagans and the remaining Israelites not deported. The hostility that existed between the Jews and the Samaritans was due to religious differences. The Samaritans did not accept all the books of the Jewish Bible, believing them to glorify the people of Judah. The Jews had invaded Samaria during the second century BCE and destroyed their temple on Mount Gerizim, insisting that God could only be worshipped at the Temple in Jerusalem. Even though Judea and Samaria were both under Roman control in the first century, there was a great deal of emnity between the two nations. A Samaritan who entered Judea would be despised, as would a Jew who entered Samaria.
srry to break it to ya but women are five times smarter than men, if you look at Ireland right know it is being controlled by a women and do you see them having any problems (…NOPE) infact they are so high in education and health care its almost unbeliveable. women are not considered second class, it was only in the late1900's that women were considered human and you know what they finally got what they deserved. they are now equal to every other person on this earth. men think so high of themselfs but every crab that happenes on this earth is ALL their faults. they pollute this earth, they take uniccessary resources for selffishness, they apduct and murder youngster(cruel), they use drugs, they take advantage of poor helpless women, they start wars in other countrys who refuse to side up with them (U.S.A), and are sexist. the real question should be that why are women not considered equals to men. for all i and any other women on this care they can all burn in heLL. but to be fair women do crimes too, they can be just as heartless as any criminal.
Not at all.. Women are treated like princesses.. They do not do their share of the work. ie. They do less heavy lifting, take more time off for periods, maternity, etc yet r…eceive the same pay.. Men are assumed guilty / women assumed innocent in a sexual assault incident.. The antidiscriminatory acts in Australia, discriminate in favour of women.. Women are actually put up on a pedestal.
Georgia O'Keeffe was respected and in no way a second-class citizen. She was born in the US, lived, worked and died there.
Well, they went by the people who had more money. Of course they wanted them to be some of the first class because they were the one with the most money they had lend to them.… The second class were the second richest people.
Thousands of years of history have told women that they are second class. The right to vote, to own property, to own land, businesses, and to attend institutes of higher educa…tion have been denied women. Even in recent history women have been treated as second class to a husband or father. Not all women have considered themselves second class and have fought the label and treatment that comes with it.
In Roman Empire
There were no second class citizens in ancient Rome. You were either a citizen or you were not. However there were citizens of the second class . These people had all the rig…hts of citizens except the right to vote or hold public office.
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No, women as called by prophet Muhammad (PBUH) the twin half of men. So, women in Islam are equally ranked as men but even superior than him in many situations; as detailed be…low. In Islam there is absolutely no difference between men and women as far as their relationship to Allah is concerned, as both are promised the same reward for good conduct and the same punishment for evil conduct. The Quran says: "And for women are rights over men similar to those of men over women." [Noble Quran 2:228] The Quran, in addressing the believers, often uses the expression, 'believing men and women' to emphasize the equality of men and women in regard to their respective duties, rights, virtues and merits. It says: "For Muslim men and women, for believing men and women, for devout men and women, for true men and women, for men and women who are patient and constant, for men and women who humble themselves, for men and women who give in charity, for men and women who fast, for men and women who guard their chastity, and for men and women who engage much in Allah's praise, for them has Allah prepared forgiveness and great reward." [Noble Quran 33:35] The Quran admonishes those men who oppress or ill-treat women: "O you who believe! You are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should you treat them with harshness, that you may take away part of the dowry you have given them - except when they have become guilty of open lewdness. On the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If you take a dislike to them, it may be that you dislike something and Allah will bring about through it a great deal of good." [Noble Quran 4:19] The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) was full of praise for virtuous and chaste women. He said: "The world and all things in the world are precious but the most precious thing in the world is a virtuous woman. He once told the future khalifah, 'Umar: "Shall I not inform you about the best treasure a man can hoard? It is a virtuous wife who pleases him whenever he looks towards her, and who guards herself when he is absent from her." Before the advent of Islam women were often treated worse than animals. The Prophet wanted to put a stop to all cruelties to women. He preached kindness towards them. He told the Muslims: "Fear Allah in respect of women." And: "The best of you are they who behave best to their wives." And: "A Muslim must not hate his wife, and if he be displeased with one bad quality in her, let him be pleased with one that is good." And: "The more civil and kind a Muslim is to his wife, the more perfect in faith he is." In Islam a woman is a completely independent personality. She can make any contract or bequest in her own name. She is entitled to inherit in her position as mother, as wife, as sister and as daughter. She has perfect liberty to choose her husband. The pagan society of pre-Islamic Arabia had an irrational prejudice against their female children whom they used to bury alive. The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) was totally opposed to this practice. He showed them that supporting their female children would act as a screen for them against the fire of Hell: Woman as mother commands great respect in Islam. The Noble Quran speaks of the rights of the mother in a number of verses. It enjoins Muslims to show respect to their mothers and serve them well even if they are still unbelievers. The Prophet states emphatically that the rights of the mother are paramount. Abu Hurayrah reported that a man came to the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) and asked: "O Messenger of Allah, who is the person who has the greatest right on me with regards to kindness and attention?" He replied, "Your mother." "Then who?" He replied, "Your mother." "Then who?" He replied, "Your mother." "Then who?" He replied, "Your father." In another tradition, the Prophet advised a believer not to join the war against the Quraish in defense of Islam, but to look after his mother, saying that his service to his mother would be a cause of his salvation. Mu'awiyah, the son of Jahimah, reported that Jahimah came to the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) and said, "Messenger of Allah! I want to join the fighting (in the path of Allah) and I have come to seek your advice." He said, "Then remain in your mother's service, because Paradise is under her feet."