What if someone is a liar but they are not a pathological liar?
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Pathological liars - or "mythomaniacs" - are people who engage in objectively puposeless story telling behavior. The stories they tell are not the products of delusions and se…rve no external purpose other than to inflate the value of the teller in the eyes of the listener. The actual existence of mythomania separate from other diagnoses as a symptom set is a controversial topic in the mental health field. The symptom set for Mythomania is strictly limited: 1) The subject is not delusional and the stories they tell are at least technically plausible. If the subject is actually delusional, a diagnosis of a condition with psychotic features is more appropriate. 2) The tendency to construct such stories is non-transient, and long lasting. The story telling behavior is an actual personality trail. 3) The tendency is clearly non-situational and the subjects motives are objectively internal. The stories are not lies told from fear, or to cover a long pattern of misconduct (spousal abusers and confidence tricksters for instance are not mythomaniacs although they often construct elaborate webs of lies for years to cover their abuse or trick their victims. Such lies are situational and objectively external. The abuser is attempting to evade punishment). 4) The stories tend to present the teller in an extremely positive light, but otherwise provide no material benefit to the teller. The story may suggest that the teller is intensely brave, wealthy or may know many famous people, but the teller derives no benefit from fostering this belief, other than people believing the story. The term is often misused to refer to those suffering from histrionic personality disorder or narcissistic personality disorder. The following comments basically reflect a pathological liar who has the characteristics of histrionic personality disorder. Some Characteristics : . Exaggerates things that are ridiculous. . One-upping. Whatever you do, this person can do it better. You will never top them in their own mind, because they have a concerted need to be better than everyone else. This also applies to being right. If you try to confront an individual like this, no matter how lovingly and well-intentioned you might be - this will probably not be effective. It's threatening their fantasy of themselves, so they would rather argue with you and bring out the sharp knives than admit that there's anything wrong with them. . They "construct" a reality around themselves. They don't value the truth, especially if they don't see it as hurting anyone. If you call them on a lie and they are backed into a corner, they will act very defensively and say ugly things (most likely but depends on personality), but they may eventually start to act like, "Well, what's the difference? You're making a big deal out of nothing!" (again, to refocus the conversation to your wrongdoing instead of theirs). . Because these people don't value honesty, a lot of times they will not value loyalty. So watch what you tell them. They will not only tell others, but they will embellish to make you look worse. Their loyalty is fleeting, and because they are insecure people, they will find solace in confiding to whomever is in their favor at the moment. . They may be somewhat of a hypochondriac. This can come in especially useful when caught in a lie, for example, they can claim that they have been sick, or that there's some mysteriously "illness" that has them all stressed out. It's another excuse tool for their behavior. . Obviously, they will contradict what they say. This will become very clear over time. They usually aren't smart enough to keep track of so many lies (who would be?). Another Wiki s contributor adds: . They lie about even the smallest things. For example, saying "I brushed my teeth today," when they didn't. . They add exaggerations to every sentence. . They change their story all the time. . They act very defensively when you question their statements. . They believe what they say is true, when everyone else knows it isn't. An alternate 'checklist': . Lies when it is very easy to tell the truth. . Lies to get sympathy, to look better, to save their butt, etc. . Fools people at first but once they get to know him, no one believes anything they ever say. . May have a personality disorder. . Extremely manipulative. . Has been caught in lies repeatedly. . Never fesses up to the lies. . Is a legend in their own mind. More opinions and input from Wiki s contributors: . I have found a few differences in pathological liar and a "slime ball" liar. Pathological liars cannot tell that they are lying; they actually believe the lie as soon as it comes out of their mouth. They lie about unimportant things that don't really matter to anyone. This can be caused by mental defect but isn't always. Slime-ball liars lie about things that make them look better or embellish to get attention. They also lie to keep their butts out of trouble and to get what they want. . Here are things to ask yourself: How could this many things happen to one person? Would believe these stories if someone else told you? Think back to the beginning: you had red flags and alarms going off in you head. Learn to trust your instincts. . It is very hard to tell when one is a pathological liar. Some people just are liars and lie to lie because they can and they don't care about getting caught and aware that you know they have lied. These people care not about lying, it's no big deal. It's like "ok, so what? I lied". The pathological liar on the other hand, IS aware that they are lying BUT will go to extremes to make you believe that they are truthful. They appear to believe their own lies BUT in truth, they know their lies are just that, lies. But because their efforts are constantly backing up their lies, it appears to us that they actually believe their lies, when we eventually do find out about them and then we tend to feel sorry for these people. Then they have an excuse, "I am sick, I don't know why I lie, I believed what I was saying etc." The only truth was the fact that they don't know why they lie. Other than that it's crap. It is true that most of them have an extremely low sense of self worth and are continuously trying to make themselves feel better about THEMSELVES and this is one reason they lie. It is about them but the lies are not always set up with the purpose to hurt some one else; it's that these people feel so low about themselves they need to create ANYTHING different from the ugly reality they feel about themselves so they lie about even the most tiniest little thing. The people closest to them get sucked into these lies which sometimes start as something very trivial and then turn into something that can turn everyone involved worlds upside down and inside out. . Unmasking the pathological liar is an easier task when the pathological liar is no more than a casual acquaintence to the "un-masker." Close relationships provide camouflage for the pathological liar, and intimacy provides a heavily-fortressed breeding ground. . Other indicators: 1) Rage attacks after they realize you're questioning their lies. 2) Distraction techniques, e.g. hanging up the phone when you catch them in lie, playing word games, or even just running out of the room. After using the distraction technique, or rage attack, or sometimes both, they will pretend that nothing ever happened. They re-write history, so it never did happen in their minds. Normal people do it too, but these people take it to the extreme. . From "Go Ask Alice": Lies are unplanned and impulsive. Behavior is repeated over a long period of time. Lies don't seem to exist for any external reason. Behavior may not always be a conscious act. Lies are admitted, changed, and/or adapted if a false story is challenged. . From Andrea Broadbent "The Truth about Truman": To begin, the definition of pathological actually means abnormal or grossly atypical. Therefore, a pathological liar prevaricates more frequently than the average person or tells more abnormal lies. In most cases, pathological liars tell lies that are "unplanned and impulsive" (Hausman). These lies are usually very emotional stories that tend to serve no purpose except to impress people (Ford 133). As of now, psychiatrists are unsure whether or not pathological liars are fully capable of realizing if and when they are lying, so detecting whether or not a person is a pathological liar is a very difficult task (Hausman). By looking at the list of conditions commonly connected with people considered to be pathological liars, psychiatrists are better able to determine whether or not a person might actually have the disorder. Some main qualities linked with pathological liars include dysfunctional family origin, family lying patterns, anomalies of sexual life, frequent substance abuse, and a great capacity for language. . From Raymond Lloyd Richmond, Ph.D. "Psychological Honesty": Even a pathological liar carries deep in his heart a desire for goodness and honesty and yet, because of painful emotional wounds, believes that the world never has, and never will, recognize his pain. And so, to hide that pain from himself, he uses all the lies he can concoct to hurl at the world as he runs in fear from his own goodness. . For me, the first indication has been that I hear them tell different things to different people and they can't all be right, because they directly contradict each other! And I am able to prove it. If you can prove over and over again that things someone is telling you are outright false, then you have a pathological liar on your hands. . With the Internet, it is now easier than ever to "fact-check" even the most mundane things. I think pathological liars often lose track of all of the lies they tell different people and it will eventually catch up with them.
Do Pathological Liars Admit They Lie? Chronic liars are most commonly found among those who have Antisocial Personality Disorder, although some liars also suffer from factit…ious conditions like Munchhausen's Disorder or Munchhausen's by Proxy and of course, there are disorders that by their nature promote lying -- such as substance abusers who have to lie to spouses or employers in order to support their habit. Narcissists are also fond of lying. The most serious of the chronic liars are the psychopaths, who form the most severe 10% (roughly) of those with Antisocial Personality Disorder and yes, they will happily acknowledge that they lie, in some circumstances. They will rarely acknowledge a lie if doing so might cause them discomfort -- for example, if they lie to police about not having committed some crime, they will generally not back down from this position and they will often not back away from a face-saving or grandiose lie. Those liars who are psychopaths or sociopaths are above all charming, glib and usually to some extent flirtatious. If admitting a lie or two is in the interest of holding your attention, they're happy to do so. Other than an accurate (and controversial) diagnosis of actual mythomania (fantastic story telling as a fixed, non-situational, objectively internal character trait), only delusions can cause an individual to tell a falsehood that they believe to be true. By definition, delusions are *fixed* false beliefs, that do not comport with any religious or cultural tradition, and they do not change when someone points out their falsity. They often don't even change with heavy medication. So if someone is telling you, "I didn't realize I just told a lie; I'm a pathological liar," excuse yourself politely, and go make a new friend. There is not going to be a happy ending. About Pathological liars knowing whether they lie or not, it's actually yes and no. He doesn't know that he has lied until AFTER he has lied (sometimes). He sometimes does not realise he has lied until someone has brought it to his attention. When he finally realises he has lied (on his own), he will NOT admit it, because there is no explanation and he feels somewhat embarrassed. When caught he will sometimes deny it simply because he does not want people to view him as a liar (from fear and shame). Finally, sometimes he will admit it in certain situations. It's not their conscious mind at work, but rather their self-centred, defensive, insecure, low self esteem subconscious. Pathological liars know themselves they are lying sometimes and feel the pain. Othertimes, they don't know ,so their relatives and friends get hurt. So, pathological liars do not always admit they are liars,especially when they are hurting others and protecting themselves. In fact, common liar also do not admit they are lying always. The difference between normal liars and pathological liars are the pain caused by and frequency of lying. Think of our own inner state when our liars are exposed. We will feel awkward but not panic. We would not be hurt so deep, but they will change their other normal mind into an abnormal state and do something that will really hurt other people's feelings. They do not admit they are liars, they go on play the role they thought they are telling the truth. When they are alone, they will think about their suffering and weep in a corner. They can feel the pain double of ours.
Answer . Hello.\n. \nYes, they are.
Answer . \nAlmost everyone lies occasionally. Usually for a reason: too keep from hurting someone's feeling, to stay out of trouble, to keep from being embarassed or the l…ike. Most people only lie when they feel they neeed to, and usually feel some sort of guilt or regret about it.\n. \nPathological liars lie for any, or no particular, reason. They invent untrue stories about themselves when there is no need to do so. They answer questions with any story that pops to mind. They may tell so many stories that they even begin to believe their own lies. They lie as a way of life, rather than as a last resort.. Answer . A liar is someone who chooses for one reason or another not to tell the truth. A pathological liar has been diagnosed with a psychological disorder marked by an inability to tell the truth even when he wants to. There are many other symptoms and etiologies; you can search the term on Google and find useful information.
Answer . I would have to say that you just have to be around them long enough. Check out what they say to you. Ask about what they said earlier. Eventually they will start …tripping themselves up. They will eventually forget what they told to whom. Hope this helps you some.
Pathological liars lies on a regular basis and is unable to control their lying despite of foreseeing inevitable negative consequences or ultimate disclosure of the lie. .…
Answer . It would be in there bodd they have been lieing there hole life its a disease
The best way to tell if someone is a pathological liar, is to catchthem in their lies. If you cant determine that they are a liar,it's best not to trust them until they prove …otherwise, to keepyourself from getting hurt.
You can tell that someone is a pathological liar if you catch themin lies often. If you consistently think that someone is lying,this could mean they are a pathological liar.
Treat everything they say as potentially untrue.
You don't. YOU GET AWAY FROM THEM. (see definitions of Narcissist and Sociopath)
Because they have lied so much that they have lost all conscientious pangs and are callus to doing wrong of this sort. So that above answer was completely conceited and wr…ong. I am a pathological liar. Therefore I am the best person to tell you about pathological liars. Right, pathological liars lie because they find it too uncomfortable to tell the truth, much like how an honest person finds it hard to lie. However, we lie about the most mundane thing sometimes. I even make up stories to win an argument. Also, most people will tell you that we lose track of our lies. For me that is not true, I have an excellent memory capacity and therefore can remember nearly every important lie I've told. Furthermore we have not lost all conscientous pangs and we are usually not callus. This person was obviously thinking of a sociopath which is completely different to a pathological liar. We don't lie to advance our own goals unlike sociopaths, we lie because it feels comfortable for us. An example was today in my class. I was asked if it was my birthday due to a prior conversation with a friend. I just said yes out of instinct (even though it wasn't). Now there is now harm done in that lie. I got sung happy birthday and nothing bad happened. We have spent so much lieing that it is second nature to us. I hope I have helped you understand.
Guilt and repercussions of what they have done! That is what makes someone a pathalogical liar.. People do not like hearing the truth, they do not like telling the truth when… they do something wrong especially if it brings heartache or harm to another person.. When confronted with questions on why they did it or what made them do it. the confrontation alone forces them into a corner.. Truth and honesty does not seem to play a big part in society today in comparison to the past.. I have watched a young woman starve herself to feed a newborn child simply because the father abandoned her during the pregnancy leaving her with a bag full of his lies. When he was approached and asked to help he claimed shock and disbelief. The same young woman worked a full time job and raised the child on her own even though she was going hungry. Society showed her no compasion or sympathy, only the expectation that she was forced to care for a child noone else seemed to want or care about. My family welcomed the young woman into our fold and have watched her grow and heal while raising her child. They now have happiness, some out there are not so lucky. I would dearly like the world to change and bring back the compassion, and put the heart into caring about other people regardless of the situation. Young men need to be forced to accept responsibility it is not something that should be pushed aside. . Its the abandoned children that will surprise the world someday. Look out all you fathers who abandon your children, leave broken hearts and broken lives behind you. It is you who will be refused compassion, sympathy, care and a heart specifically at the moment when you need it the most.
Keep a private journal with date & time and what they say.. But if they are pathological they won't believe you - you will have to get away from them ASAP - there is no cure.…
Take everything that they say with a grain of salt.(Don't believe anything they say) To get them help, you can call your local mental health clinic and they should be able to …evaluate them and get them treated. The question is: What can you do for the VICTIMS of pathological liars? since there is NOTHING you can do for the pathological liar. In fact, the more you try to help them, the more they use THAT information to become better liars. PLEASE keep an eye on them and who they're conning. They can be VERY destructive. They can ruin peoples' lives, and if allowed to impregnate someone, or become impregnated BY someone, may VERY WELL produce another offspring who will leave more distruction in their path for the next generation and the next generation ad infinitium.............Do not allow them to reproduce at all costs.
a scumbag narcissist