Are goths and punks the same?

Answer 1

Emo-originally it was a great music genre that lasted in the 80's and the 90's. This is the real form of the emo genre. This form of the emo genre came from the punk genre. From 2000-present, emo music pretty much became watered down by the mainstream. All of these new "emo" bands you see on tv these days are not real emo. There is no such thing as an emo person. At all. There are only fake emos, you know the kids that cut, cry, wear tight clothes, cover their face with their hair, etc. Emo kids are nothing but sad conformists following a stupid, mainstream trend. If you are emo, you are not unique. At all. Therefore, it is impossible to be an emo/punk or an emo/goth.

Goth- Came from the punk, new wave, no wave, and post-punk genres. Goth has very close similarities to punk. It is more than possible to be a goth/punk and is more than acceptable. Pioneers in Goth Music are: Siouxsie and the Banshees, Joy Division, and Bauhaus. Goths find the beauty in darkness because seeing too much of the light can blind you. (think of conservative christians and how hyppocritical they really are-too much of the light will blind you). Goths enjoy are, literature, film, Victorian fashion, mythology, and tend to be very religious. There are many types of goth and many elements of the goth subculture. Goths tend to be pacifist.

Punk- started in the 70's. Credit for the punk movement is given to The Ramones, but credit to the genre goes to Iggy and the Stooges and other protopunk bands. Punk emphasizes the DIY ethic and anti-consumerism (as does goth) and is all about staying true to yourself no matter what, and standing up to others that get in your way. It's all about being independent. Punks can be violent, but there is a large number of pacifist punks as well. You can be any religion you want to be punk, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. You can believe is any form of government. Most punks tend to be anarchists (peaceful or violent) and socialists. It is possible to be a conservative punk, like Johnny Ramone. There are many types of punks that believe in different stuff and many elements of the punk subculture. Punk=unique, goth=unique, emo=poser.

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Emo stands for Emotive Hardcore. Originally it referred to dark post-hardcore and slowcore groups ranging from Pinback to Fugazi, and its fans were a mixture of typical hardcore with more of a depressed slacker feel. Nowadays, it refers to poser crap like Fall out Boy or Tokio Hotel, and its rabid teenybopper cult wears short, asymmetrical black hair, facial piercings, and tight metrosexual pants. They mostly just lurk around the bargain bin at Hot Topic.

Punk is a philosophy and aesthetic founded in the 70s focusing on far-leftist activism, confrontational attitude, and a back-to-basics, patched-together feel. Though some punks are conservative, they're more military brats and libertarians then your Rush Limbaughs and Dick Chenies. Punk music is focused on a DIY simplicity, fuzzy distortion, and rough-hewn vocals that combined garage rock with political activism, shock tactics, and quick, thumping rhythms. Indivuality is valued highly, with items such as unusual hairstyles, bondage pants, faux-leather, political buttons, and cheap Guitars covered in decals being the "norm". More downbeat, experimental punk groups like Sonic Youth & Joy Division are known as post-punk.

Goth is a counterculture themed around classic horror, Victorian culture, industry, dark romance, fantasy, and an introspective, melancholy elegance. Gothic music ranges from dissonant, metallic onslaughts to sullen electronica to morbidly theatrical cabaret to world inflected, darkly sensual sounds. The religion of goths range from Wicca to Catholicism, and despite their interest in the existential and dark, or perhaps because of it, they are nonviolent and often vegetarian or vegan. For the aesthetic, it varies, but usually lace, dark red, whimsically creepy stuff, leather, catholic jewelry, pagan or occasionally demonic jewelry, veils, cloaks, and lots of black and pale makeup.

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No matter what group we come from, what group we think we're in, everyone is the same and yet we're also unique from each other. Many people would say that people that are emo are fake and posers. If that is true then everyone who is part of a group/clique is also. All these groups must be fake, we all must be posers because we're the ones that made them to be what they are and we are the one that stereotype the other groups just to make ourselves feel better. Most people are insecure about what people think of them so they pass round lies/rumors about the other groups to make their group seem better or different. No group is better, each group is just filled with people that have different styles/tastes than the other group. Honestly when it comes down to it these groups, they're just labels to make us feel like we belong somewhere, that we use as a way of fitting in.

(Michael Auditore)

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Answer 2

Goths wear black and white stuff usually like checkard stuff, punks listen to mostly rock. Heavy metal. They have different hairstyles too.

No, no, no. The goth subsulture is about finding beauty in darkness. It's a very artsy and sophisticated subculture. Punk is more about making a statement by bringing yourself to the lowest social standing possible.

Here's something someone once told me:

In the 60's, hippies responded to the condition of the world with the act of trying to make things better. In the 70's, punks responded to the condition of the world with the middle finger and anarchy (not saying you can't be an anarchist) and did everything to make a bold statement. In the 80's, goths responded to the condition of the world by dressing how they wanted and by expressing the darker side of human nature.

Now clothing wise, to be honest it depende wht kind of punk you are and what kind of goth you are. But if you want to talk stereotypically, then goth is more elegant like : velvet, corsets, lace, religious symbols, dark make up, etc. And Punk is more rugged: plaid, odd coloured hair, safety pins, and patches. But, that is just stereotypically.

Answer 3

No, goths tend to be known for wearing all black, sometimes with a victoriana edge, like corsets and full skirts, whereas punks are usually seen as wearing tarten, leather, torn clothes, Dr Martin boots, braces and brightly dyed or mohawked hair. There are limitless variations on each style, but those are some of the strereotypes.

Answer 4

a gothic person who is someone who wears black. Being gothic can be a style or a way of expressing yourself. Being emo is someone who cuts themself when they're depressed or upset. Being emo isn't someone who cuts themself just for the sake of cutting themseves or for fun.

Answer 5

Goths usually focus on the dark nature of the human being. Punks usually are anarchists, and give the finger to the law and government.