What makes someone turn into a pathological liar?
Pathological liars - or "mythomaniacs" - are people who engage in objectively puposeless story telling behavior. The stories they tell are not the products of delusions and se…rve no external purpose other than to inflate the value of the teller in the eyes of the listener. The actual existence of mythomania separate from other diagnoses as a symptom set is a controversial topic in the mental health field. The symptom set for Mythomania is strictly limited: 1) The subject is not delusional and the stories they tell are at least technically plausible. If the subject is actually delusional, a diagnosis of a condition with psychotic features is more appropriate. 2) The tendency to construct such stories is non-transient, and long lasting. The story telling behavior is an actual personality trail. 3) The tendency is clearly non-situational and the subjects motives are objectively internal. The stories are not lies told from fear, or to cover a long pattern of misconduct (spousal abusers and confidence tricksters for instance are not mythomaniacs although they often construct elaborate webs of lies for years to cover their abuse or trick their victims. Such lies are situational and objectively external. The abuser is attempting to evade punishment). 4) The stories tend to present the teller in an extremely positive light, but otherwise provide no material benefit to the teller. The story may suggest that the teller is intensely brave, wealthy or may know many famous people, but the teller derives no benefit from fostering this belief, other than people believing the story. The term is often misused to refer to those suffering from histrionic personality disorder or narcissistic personality disorder. The following comments basically reflect a pathological liar who has the characteristics of histrionic personality disorder. Some Characteristics : . Exaggerates things that are ridiculous. . One-upping. Whatever you do, this person can do it better. You will never top them in their own mind, because they have a concerted need to be better than everyone else. This also applies to being right. If you try to confront an individual like this, no matter how lovingly and well-intentioned you might be - this will probably not be effective. It's threatening their fantasy of themselves, so they would rather argue with you and bring out the sharp knives than admit that there's anything wrong with them. . They "construct" a reality around themselves. They don't value the truth, especially if they don't see it as hurting anyone. If you call them on a lie and they are backed into a corner, they will act very defensively and say ugly things (most likely but depends on personality), but they may eventually start to act like, "Well, what's the difference? You're making a big deal out of nothing!" (again, to refocus the conversation to your wrongdoing instead of theirs). . Because these people don't value honesty, a lot of times they will not value loyalty. So watch what you tell them. They will not only tell others, but they will embellish to make you look worse. Their loyalty is fleeting, and because they are insecure people, they will find solace in confiding to whomever is in their favor at the moment. . They may be somewhat of a hypochondriac. This can come in especially useful when caught in a lie, for example, they can claim that they have been sick, or that there's some mysteriously "illness" that has them all stressed out. It's another excuse tool for their behavior. . Obviously, they will contradict what they say. This will become very clear over time. They usually aren't smart enough to keep track of so many lies (who would be?). Another Wiki s contributor adds: . They lie about even the smallest things. For example, saying "I brushed my teeth today," when they didn't. . They add exaggerations to every sentence. . They change their story all the time. . They act very defensively when you question their statements. . They believe what they say is true, when everyone else knows it isn't. An alternate 'checklist': . Lies when it is very easy to tell the truth. . Lies to get sympathy, to look better, to save their butt, etc. . Fools people at first but once they get to know him, no one believes anything they ever say. . May have a personality disorder. . Extremely manipulative. . Has been caught in lies repeatedly. . Never fesses up to the lies. . Is a legend in their own mind. More opinions and input from Wiki s contributors: . I have found a few differences in pathological liar and a "slime ball" liar. Pathological liars cannot tell that they are lying; they actually believe the lie as soon as it comes out of their mouth. They lie about unimportant things that don't really matter to anyone. This can be caused by mental defect but isn't always. Slime-ball liars lie about things that make them look better or embellish to get attention. They also lie to keep their butts out of trouble and to get what they want. . Here are things to ask yourself: How could this many things happen to one person? Would believe these stories if someone else told you? Think back to the beginning: you had red flags and alarms going off in you head. Learn to trust your instincts. . It is very hard to tell when one is a pathological liar. Some people just are liars and lie to lie because they can and they don't care about getting caught and aware that you know they have lied. These people care not about lying, it's no big deal. It's like "ok, so what? I lied". The pathological liar on the other hand, IS aware that they are lying BUT will go to extremes to make you believe that they are truthful. They appear to believe their own lies BUT in truth, they know their lies are just that, lies. But because their efforts are constantly backing up their lies, it appears to us that they actually believe their lies, when we eventually do find out about them and then we tend to feel sorry for these people. Then they have an excuse, "I am sick, I don't know why I lie, I believed what I was saying etc." The only truth was the fact that they don't know why they lie. Other than that it's crap. It is true that most of them have an extremely low sense of self worth and are continuously trying to make themselves feel better about THEMSELVES and this is one reason they lie. It is about them but the lies are not always set up with the purpose to hurt some one else; it's that these people feel so low about themselves they need to create ANYTHING different from the ugly reality they feel about themselves so they lie about even the most tiniest little thing. The people closest to them get sucked into these lies which sometimes start as something very trivial and then turn into something that can turn everyone involved worlds upside down and inside out. . Unmasking the pathological liar is an easier task when the pathological liar is no more than a casual acquaintence to the "un-masker." Close relationships provide camouflage for the pathological liar, and intimacy provides a heavily-fortressed breeding ground. . Other indicators: 1) Rage attacks after they realize you're questioning their lies. 2) Distraction techniques, e.g. hanging up the phone when you catch them in lie, playing word games, or even just running out of the room. After using the distraction technique, or rage attack, or sometimes both, they will pretend that nothing ever happened. They re-write history, so it never did happen in their minds. Normal people do it too, but these people take it to the extreme. . From "Go Ask Alice": Lies are unplanned and impulsive. Behavior is repeated over a long period of time. Lies don't seem to exist for any external reason. Behavior may not always be a conscious act. Lies are admitted, changed, and/or adapted if a false story is challenged. . From Andrea Broadbent "The Truth about Truman": To begin, the definition of pathological actually means abnormal or grossly atypical. Therefore, a pathological liar prevaricates more frequently than the average person or tells more abnormal lies. In most cases, pathological liars tell lies that are "unplanned and impulsive" (Hausman). These lies are usually very emotional stories that tend to serve no purpose except to impress people (Ford 133). As of now, psychiatrists are unsure whether or not pathological liars are fully capable of realizing if and when they are lying, so detecting whether or not a person is a pathological liar is a very difficult task (Hausman). By looking at the list of conditions commonly connected with people considered to be pathological liars, psychiatrists are better able to determine whether or not a person might actually have the disorder. Some main qualities linked with pathological liars include dysfunctional family origin, family lying patterns, anomalies of sexual life, frequent substance abuse, and a great capacity for language. . From Raymond Lloyd Richmond, Ph.D. "Psychological Honesty": Even a pathological liar carries deep in his heart a desire for goodness and honesty and yet, because of painful emotional wounds, believes that the world never has, and never will, recognize his pain. And so, to hide that pain from himself, he uses all the lies he can concoct to hurl at the world as he runs in fear from his own goodness. . For me, the first indication has been that I hear them tell different things to different people and they can't all be right, because they directly contradict each other! And I am able to prove it. If you can prove over and over again that things someone is telling you are outright false, then you have a pathological liar on your hands. . With the Internet, it is now easier than ever to "fact-check" even the most mundane things. I think pathological liars often lose track of all of the lies they tell different people and it will eventually catch up with them.
How do you confront someone who you think might be a pathological liar without making them angry or very defensive?
There is no way you can do this. A pathological liar is a difficult person to deal with. Once the trust is broken; even if they are telling the truth you will never trust them… again. Pathological liars are just that, and little can be done for them. Psychologists/Psychiatrists seldom have luck with these types of people. Pathological liars have many reasons why they are this way. Perhaps the way they were raised (abuse/fear), they have no self confidence, they don't feel they have gotten as far in life as they should so they lie about what they do or they are hiding something about themselves they don't want anyone else to know. If you confront this person they will be in constant denial and personally, I've experienced it and I know they will drive you into a frenzy. It is best to either accept this in the person and not count on them for anything too serious in your life (if they are a likeable sort of person) or walk out. Good luck Marcy WHY DO WE LIE? LIE THEORY A Belief in being not yourself, not necessary at all! Why do people lie?? If it was SSID I would have Googled it, but it wasn't. Observations leads our processess to conclude to a result. But I would try not to conclude the observation so soon in my experience of meeting people who either believe in their lies or others who believe it is their birth right. When we lie, we are not being ourselves? This is the first step towards living a lie. I don't really believe in the statement above, cause if you notice consumption of alcohol and its reaction to most unspoken minds make them speak the truth. If you read the statement once again it actually means once you lie you do undergo changes both physically and mentally. One definitely won't get an extra limb or couple of inches more but some are so new to it, their eyes make rapid movements and they try so hard to remain casual. It is a sad fact that it is easier to lie to some people, than it is to tell them the truth. But here's the point of wonder: what would be the difference in lie and deception? Or are they synonymous? Fear Of Judgement: The reason that we lie is because we fear the judgment of others. Such judgment may be legal in nature, or moral in nature, but either way our motivation for lying remains a fear of judgment. There is another fear born motivation for lying which is related to the judgment issue, and that is acceptance. We feel that we need to justify our actions or we will not be accepted by others, and often our justification of our actions is a lie. The justification of our actions can be a lie not only to others, but also to ourselves. The Ultimate Lie: The belief that we are not good enough is a product of the fear based society and seems to have become built into our physical existence. The belief that we are not good enough is a lie in itself, perpetuated by many of our religions, by government, by education, and by the media. The truth is that we are good enough. Comparisons don't have any roles but one cant really live without it too. It gives us more opportunity to improve. The lie that we are not good enough often causes us to attempt to justify ourselves so that we will be good enough to be accepted within the artificial standards of the earth plane, standards which are in themselves lies perpetuated by the fear based existence. The truth is that we are not only good enough for artificial earth plane standards and the related judgment, but we are beyond the artificial temporary existence of the earth plane. The earth plane is an illusion, and the current fear based earth plane existence is built upon a lie. However, the earth plane is necessary for experience, and the truth is available for all to see. The truth has always been available for all to see, if we choose. The Prison Of Illusion: The lie that we are not good enough to be accepted within the standards of the earth plane, which are in themselves based on a lie causes us to justify ourselves often with another lie, until we find ourselves existing within an illusion built by layer upon layer of lies which are fuelled by fear of judgment. This is how fear has built upon itself. Fear is ever increasing as more and more layers which are no more than illusion are added. We have found ourselves existing within a prison of illusion, and shackled within this prison, by the very lies which are the foundation of the prison.Its got a lot do with acceptance and how you react to the prison. Recognition: The prison keeps us bound and tied. We fear releasing ourselves from the shackles for it means defacating that illusion that has become us. Our reality is no longer a reality unless we have created it. The freedom that we long to have seems like a fantasy; yet inside we know that by releasing ourselves from this prison, we will know true happiness. We fight for the ability to overcome that ultimate lie. We long to recognize our true value as an individual without the shackles but we do not know how; and then we realize, freedom has its price. That price is impossible to quantify, and that moment we recognize that the price cannot be quantified, is the moment of ultimate empowerment. Recovery: As we are empowered we enter the process of recovery. The burtality of recovery is hard as we realize the pain that we have caused others, but even more so, the pain that we have subjected upon ourselves. We have feared judgment so violently, that we have enhanced our fear and distrust in humanity alone. Inside we fight to locate our center of gravity, yet we donï¿½t know what or where that is because of the illusional state of mind that has bound us for so long. And then, we fall to the ground empowered by the ability to see the light. We have been empowered by some gravitational force to move towards recognition, and beyond, if we choose. We do choose, but the road is long and dreary as we learn to love ourselves. The secret stone that we have clung to for so long is slowly broken down into smaller and smaller pieces. We fight for those we have hurt to forgive us, yet ultimately, we long for that ability to forgive ourselves as true freedom cannot be attained until we do so. The problematic arena that we circle around daily in is that which holds us captive; and we know that the lies are tearing us apart, we have recognized, and been empowered by that recognition, but moving beyond - towards true recovery and happiness seems impossible at times. We fight for the ability to stand up and say I am who I am.. take me as I come. Yet, we do not accept ourselves as we are. We fear reality, yet long for reality. And then, we break ï¿½ collapsing to the ground tired of holding onto that illusional life and we release it. Forgiveness is available, but only to those who can forgive themselves. We have found our value, and we know that it is going to be that much greater. Fear will arise and violence will fall. We will long for that approval and acceptance, but it will be based on our merits alone, and factual merits for that illusional life is just such ï¿½ an illusion. Love can be found, peace and harmony are available; and true happiness is presented for we have found that child within us and we no longer have to run. Meh, I don't really, if they're ur family it'll be easy, my brother is a pathological liar, but he JUST WOULDN'T listen to you, if you confronted him, don't confront them, but consider taking them to a pshycologist.
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Answer . I would have to say that you just have to be around them long enough. Check out what they say to you. Ask about what they said earlier. Eventually they will start …tripping themselves up. They will eventually forget what they told to whom. Hope this helps you some.
Pathological liars lies on a regular basis and is unable to control their lying despite of foreseeing inevitable negative consequences or ultimate disclosure of the lie. .…
The best way to tell if someone is a pathological liar, is to catchthem in their lies. If you cant determine that they are a liar,it's best not to trust them until they prove …otherwise, to keepyourself from getting hurt.
You can tell that someone is a pathological liar if you catch themin lies often. If you consistently think that someone is lying,this could mean they are a pathological liar.
Treat everything they say as potentially untrue.
You don't. YOU GET AWAY FROM THEM. (see definitions of Narcissist and Sociopath)
Because they have lied so much that they have lost all conscientious pangs and are callus to doing wrong of this sort. So that above answer was completely conceited and wr…ong. I am a pathological liar. Therefore I am the best person to tell you about pathological liars. Right, pathological liars lie because they find it too uncomfortable to tell the truth, much like how an honest person finds it hard to lie. However, we lie about the most mundane thing sometimes. I even make up stories to win an argument. Also, most people will tell you that we lose track of our lies. For me that is not true, I have an excellent memory capacity and therefore can remember nearly every important lie I've told. Furthermore we have not lost all conscientous pangs and we are usually not callus. This person was obviously thinking of a sociopath which is completely different to a pathological liar. We don't lie to advance our own goals unlike sociopaths, we lie because it feels comfortable for us. An example was today in my class. I was asked if it was my birthday due to a prior conversation with a friend. I just said yes out of instinct (even though it wasn't). Now there is now harm done in that lie. I got sung happy birthday and nothing bad happened. We have spent so much lieing that it is second nature to us. I hope I have helped you understand.
Guilt and repercussions of what they have done! That is what makes someone a pathalogical liar.. People do not like hearing the truth, they do not like telling the truth when… they do something wrong especially if it brings heartache or harm to another person.. When confronted with questions on why they did it or what made them do it. the confrontation alone forces them into a corner.. Truth and honesty does not seem to play a big part in society today in comparison to the past.. I have watched a young woman starve herself to feed a newborn child simply because the father abandoned her during the pregnancy leaving her with a bag full of his lies. When he was approached and asked to help he claimed shock and disbelief. The same young woman worked a full time job and raised the child on her own even though she was going hungry. Society showed her no compasion or sympathy, only the expectation that she was forced to care for a child noone else seemed to want or care about. My family welcomed the young woman into our fold and have watched her grow and heal while raising her child. They now have happiness, some out there are not so lucky. I would dearly like the world to change and bring back the compassion, and put the heart into caring about other people regardless of the situation. Young men need to be forced to accept responsibility it is not something that should be pushed aside. . Its the abandoned children that will surprise the world someday. Look out all you fathers who abandon your children, leave broken hearts and broken lives behind you. It is you who will be refused compassion, sympathy, care and a heart specifically at the moment when you need it the most.
that's joke , you know it. that's good don't be trapped
Keep a private journal with date & time and what they say.. But if they are pathological they won't believe you - you will have to get away from them ASAP - there is no cure.…
Take everything that they say with a grain of salt.(Don't believe anything they say) To get them help, you can call your local mental health clinic and they should be able to …evaluate them and get them treated. The question is: What can you do for the VICTIMS of pathological liars? since there is NOTHING you can do for the pathological liar. In fact, the more you try to help them, the more they use THAT information to become better liars. PLEASE keep an eye on them and who they're conning. They can be VERY destructive. They can ruin peoples' lives, and if allowed to impregnate someone, or become impregnated BY someone, may VERY WELL produce another offspring who will leave more distruction in their path for the next generation and the next generation ad infinitium.............Do not allow them to reproduce at all costs.
I think it could be very stressful and could result in physical and mental problems.
a scumbag narcissist