That's a tough one, but I would say it can change according to the partner that they are with. Many people become 'products' of a relationship, especially long term. Loss of identity is particulalry something that I have an issue with. Are you the narcissist or the partner in this relationship? I am not the narcissist, my ex is. He seems to have had a different relationship with the girlfriend he had before me that was primarily sexual. He quickly turned to total abstinence with me. I am confused since I was under the impression that a narcissist is either one type or the other, but my ex seems to fit both profiles. I am also curious why he would treat each of us different. The other girl was pretty wild...into drugs and group sex. Seems like a no-brainer but I am so curious if our personalities may, in fact, bring out different narcissistic behavior. I am pretty tame and conservative by comparison to the other girl. Thanks for your previous answer. P.S. I wanted to add that I discovered this information about the old girlfriend after we had broken up, in the form of a very candid restraining order that had been filed by her and against my ex. I am shocked that my narcissistic partner would have associated with such a girl as he constantly preached high moral standards to me. I keep uncovering all these startling truths! Very spooky.
I would say yes ! I had very active sex life with my N. From my understanding, he rarely has relations with his current...then again...she is a beast...
All narcissists constantly switch between somatic and cerebral, inverted ad classic.
It's actually called sexual vs. intellectual. See the Related Link below.
According to Sam Vaknin, a narcissist and self-proclaimed expert on all things narcissistic, there are two types, cerebral and somatic. The cerebral type believes himself mentally superior and the somatic type belives himself to be physically and sexually superior. These two classifications however, are not universally accepted.
A somatic narcissist is someone who feels superior to others in relation to their body. So they think they are sexy or hot. A cerebral narcissist is someone who feels superior to other in relation to their mind. They see themselves as intellectually superior to others. Traditionally, males are more likely to be cerebral narcissists, while females are more likely to be somatic narcissists. However, when dealing with LGBT persons, these labels do not always line up along gender lines so neatly.
Yes Narcissist cheats. I have read one who satisfies their narcissistic supply with sex is called a Somatic Narcissist. My ex married one-and he is a pathological narcissist as I know I lived it-It is the most insidious emotional abuse one can encounter- A Somatic Narcissist tends to be very promiscuous-she/he disregards her marriage and have multiple affairs just to satisfy their need for narcissist supply -Admiration-power--The Somatic Narcissist will capture you - control you with their sexual seduction and when he/she has you completely in their control her true self will come out-cruel and unemotional-and when you no longer satisfy their narcissistic supply the Somatic Narcissist will leave you as quickly as he/she entered your life-and onto the next-As I understand Somatic Narcissist have many affairs --regardless married or not. Question what happens when one Narcissist marries another Narcissist-it should be interesting to watch
THE NARCISSIST CEREBRAL/SOMATIC AND THE OPPOSITE SEX This chapter deals with the male narcissist and with his "relationships" with women. It would be correct to substitute one gender for another. Female narcissists treat the men in their lives in a manner indistinguishable from the way male narcissists treat "their" women. I believe that this is the case with same sex partners. To re-iterate, Primary Narcissistic Supply (PNS) is any kind of NS provided by people who are not "meaningful" or "significant" others. Adulation, attention, affirmation, fame, notoriety, sexual conquests
yes because being soo smart, the cerebral narcisst knows all too well that the somatic narcisst cant b trusted.
It depends on what loss of control is at stake but whatever it is, the partner will eventually be devalued. It's all about him being in CONTROL. If he's a somatic narcissist and his sex domination worked in the beginning he may initially enjoy the reverse happening, however this won't last as he realises the loss of HIS sexual control. He will be on the lookout for a more attractive, sexually submissive woman who will bring him primary narcissistic supply and maintain the sexual omnipotence he desires. In terms of the cerebral narcissist, if the partner is older, he may find alternative supply in a younger, equally intelligent woman who will admire HIM for his knowledge. The partner will also end up being devalued in this process. She will be portrayed as too controlling, too pushy, too forward, too absorbed, - 'crazy' at times. My experience with the somatic narcissist is that they never hang around long enough with the same partner, or get close enough to allow their loss of control to occur. They keep you 'dangling'.They are ALWAYS on the look out for primary supply. Their commitment to the primary relationship is fleeting and as time progresses they become bored with the once idealised partner. When she realises she is being 'used' and asserts any control, the narcissist retreats and labels her as tiresome and demanding. The 'novelty' of the idealised woman doesnt take long to wear off.
Not normally, but it usually depends on in which way you dump them
From my experience and reading, I have found that narcissists switch roles. My N would switch between being somatic to cerebral. For instance, he would go through periods of time when he wanted to be very sexual then we would go without sex for a very long time. Sometimes he would care about his appearance way too much and then other times he would look like a bum. He would also go between working out a lot to not working out at all. Everything was extreme, there was never any moderation. To answer your question, you would have to judge it on your own. I would say that my N, acted more cerebral at times. It just all depended on the day.
cerebrum's outer layer of gray matter, the cerebral cortex.
Not really. It is the conquest that matters - it buttresses and regulates the somatic narcissist's labile emotions and volatile sense of self-worth.
is more sexual including intercourse,various deviant interests, but eventually the activity will diminish unless with multiple reationships
Narcissists are either cerebral or somatic. In other words, they either generate their narcissistic supply by applying their bodies or by applying their minds.The somatic narcissist flaunts his sexual conquests, parades his possessions, exhibits his muscles, brags about his physical aesthetics or sexual prowess or exploits, is often a health freak and a hypochondriac. The cerebral narcissist is a know-it-all, haughty and intelligent "computer". He uses his awesome intellect, or knowledge (real or pretended) to secure adoration, adulation and admiration. To him, his body and its maintenance are a burden and a distraction.Both types are auto-erotic (psychosexually in love with themselves, with their bodies and with their brain). Both types prefer masturbation to adult, mature, interactive, multi-dimensional and emotion-laden sex.The cerebral narcissist is often celibate (even when he has a girlfriend or a spouse). He prefers pornography and sexual auto-stimulation to the real thing. The cerebral narcissist is sometimes a latent (hidden, not yet outed) homosexual.The somatic narcissist uses other people's bodies to masturbate. Sex with him - pyrotechnics and acrobatics aside - is likely to be an impersonal and emotionally alienating and draining experience. The partner is often treated as an object, an extension of the somatic narcissist, a toy, a warm and pulsating vibrator.It is a mistake to assume type-constancy. In other words, all narcissists are BOTH cerebral and somatic. In each narcissist, one of the types is dominant. So, the narcissist is either OVERWHELMINGLY cerebral - or DOMINANTLY somatic. But the other type, the recessive (manifested less frequently) type, is there. It is lurking, waiting to erupt.The narcissist swings between his dominant type and his recessive type. The latter is expressed mainly as a result of a major narcissistic injury or life crisis.I can give you hundreds of examples from my correspondence but, instead, let's talk about me (of course...:o))I am a cerebral narcissist. I brandish my brainpower, exhibit my intellectual achievements, bask in the attention given to my mind and its products. I hate my body and neglect it. It is a nuisance, a burden, a derided appendix, an inconvenience, a punishment. Needless to add that I rarely have sex (often years apart). I masturbate regularly, very mechanically, as one would change water in an aquarium. I stay away from women because I perceive them to be ruthless predators who are out to consume me and mine.I have had quite a few major life crises. I got divorced, lost millions a few times, did time in one of the worst prisons in the world, fled countries as a political refugee, was threatened, harassed and stalked by powerful people and groups. I have been devalued, betrayed, denigrated and insulted.Invariably, following every life crisis, the somatic narcissist in me took over. I became a lascivious lecher. When this happened, I had a few relationships - replete with abundant and addictive sex - going simultaneously. I participated in and initiated group sex and mass orgies. I exercised, lost weight and honed my body into an irresistible proposition.This outburst of unrestrained, primordial lust waned in a few months and I settled back into my cerebral ways. No sex, no women, no body.These total reversals of character stun my mates. My girlfriends and spouse found it impossible to digest this eerie transformation from the gregarious, darkly handsome, well-built and sexually insatiable person that swept them off their feet - to the bodiless, bookwormish hermit with not an inkling of interest in either sex or other carnal pleasures.I miss my somatic half. I wish I could find a balance, but I know it is a doomed quest. This sexual beast of mine will forever be trapped in the intellectual cage that is I, Sam Vaknin, the Brain.The question is "How long will a narcissist stay in somatic mode". I've wondered this myself. If a beautiful girl is a somatic narcissist and gets all her pride from her looks, what happens when she ages and isn't so pretty anymore. I guess we should look at Madonna as she gets older. How long can a stripper work at a strip club? She can't work there when she's 70.NarcissismOnce the narcissist cannot, or no longer wants to be a somatic narcissist. I've been a somatic narcissist my whole life, rarely using my mind (even though I'm intelligent). Over the past few years, I've honed my body, my charm, and have successfully seduced 100's to 1000's of women. But as my skills and looks have increased, the number of problems that I''ve encountered have also increased. Lately, my female conquests have caused major problems, that lead me to believe that I'm nothing more than a real life Narcisus(in love with myself, reject any female that offers intimacy). I've lately come to the conclusion that I'd be better off in life (more likely to live a real life) if I kill off my somatic half. No matter how difficult it is for me to stop caring about my looks (which will also have the effect of killing my ability to seduce, because I'll no longer have any confidence in myself). I've done this before when I was younger, with the result of turning depressed, and becoming close to schizoid (when I loose my looks, I almost become paranoid about going out into public). But I've decided that my looks aren't going to last forever, and the amount of damage that I'm doing is bad. I'd be better off forgetting about my somatic half, and concentrating on making something of myself. Looks are only skin deep. Somatic changeI have watched my child's mother who was at one point quite lovely, (coined initially a somatic narcissist) lose her looks over the years. While I stay as far away as possible she continues to attempt different frauds and cons using anyone that is easily manipulated. The last time I saw a picture of her I was amazed at the transformation. She looks completely different, It was suspected that other mental illnesses along with the NPD were involved. Her most recent attempt at insurance fraud was outright nutty and almost desperate. As usual, I was able to catch her in a slew of lies and submit them to the company she was claiming the bill was from. In the past she would file a pauper order and then get an attorney to assist her with the fraud by conning them. But even the attorneys willing to be used eventually run out. After their looks fade NPD people lose much of their ability to use others through sex and become what they always were, just ugly con-artists without conscience or empathy for others...
they will act upset... but they will just go find someone else.
In my view, somatic narcisism IS the Histrionic Personality Disorder. And, yes, it is "forever". It may not stay with them forever, it may for example become a more cerebral form of narcissism.
The Histrionic Personality Disorder (HPD) is a separate mental health disorder. I assume, therefore, that you are referring to the SOMATIC female narcissist. She derives her sense of self-worth from her sexual conquests. And, yes, she is enraged by rejection.
Somatic cells are all the cells in an organism's body except for the gametes. Certain somatic cells may have different functions in an organism due to differences in gene expression; which simply mean that somatic cells only use certain parts of the DNA. Therefore, all somatic cells have the same DNA. When these cells develop, they will specialize into certain types of cells depending on which genes will turn "on."
A somatic cell is any cell in the body or a plant and can therefore do anything, depending on where it is located. e.g. a muscle cell in an arm muscle contracts, an eye cell detects light etc. The only cells which are not somatic are the sex cells such as sperm, eggs (animals), pollen and ovum (plants).
yes it is somatic