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Can you shoot with a Fine Damascus fancy drilling with modern ammo or only black powder?
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∙ 18y ago
A with any damascus shotguns only black powder should be used,however rifles may possibly be used after a complete check by a qualified gun smith
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Is the smokeless powder steel and damascus the same?
No. "Smokeless powder steel" or fluid steel, or other terms, mean modern, billet steel. Damascus, twist, or welded barrels are made of forge-welded twisted wire and rods. There are potential weak spots in the twists, and over time, burning propellant and corrosive residue eat at the gaps and make them more prominent. Eventually, the barrel will fail. Damascus barrels are only safe with custom black powder loaded cartridges within their pressure limits, NOT with modern ammunition. There is a strong risk of a chamber explosion.
What kind of shells can you shoot in a sam Holt damascus double barrel 20 gauge?
Most old Damascus barrels cannot hold the pressures of modern smokeless loads. I doubt that you will find any black powder loads for that type of barrel. Hang it on the wall and admire it.
Can a Ithaca with a damasks barrel be shot with modern shotgun shells?
NO!!! modern powder is slow burning as compared to black powder and produces to much pressure for that type of steel process (Damascus is folded in the manufacturing process therefore laminated) and will cause the barrel to come apart which is like having a bomb in your hands
How do you know if you have damascus barrels?
Quite often the shotgun will tell you how the barrels are made. If it says "twist" or "laminated" or "damascus", then it is one of the types generally called damascus. If it says "armory", "forged", or "fluid" then it is a more modern construction. Damascus barrels will show a pattern, although it can be covered with bluing or the pattern can be simulated. You can check by removing the forearm and polishing a small spot on the bottom of the barrel. This will remove either the bluing that hides the pattern or the simulated damascus pattern. As far as safety, the best damascus constructed barrels are stronger than a low-quality fluid steel barrel, and probably equal to most when new. But time will weaken the welds, so it is wise to retire an old damascus gun unless you know it has had proper care for its entire lifetime. Since your gun is marked for smokeless powder, it is PROBABLY fluid steel and PROBABLY has 2 3/4" chambers, but if you intend to shoot it, have it checked by a competent gunsmith and follow his recommendations. Damascus barrels were made to be used with black powder and so are thicker at the breach (to handle the fast explosion of powder) and thinner at the muzzle, as black powder. Due to the fact that modern smokeless powder buns at a slower pace, thus building up more pressure towards the muzzle which could cause the metal to split or rupture, it is not recommended that modern ammo be used in a Damascus barrel.
What is the difference in a damascus barrel?
Damascus steel is made by folding a mild steel together with a high-carbon steel to make it stronger, and gives it a pretty pattern. Problem with Damascus barrels is that, while they work fine with low pressure black powder loads, modern smokeless shotshells are likely to cause the barrel to rupture, which is bad. If a shotgun has a Damascus barrel, it's very old and probably just a wall-hanger.
Can I shoot modern shells What does new twist mean because it is marked on top of the right barrel?
No! Never shoot modern ammo in any steel twist Damascus type barrel. These weren't all that reliable or safe with black powder and definitely can't take the pressure of modern loads.
What kind of powder can cause serious injury if used in a muzzleloader?
modern smokeless powder.
What powder is the only powder used in a muzzle loader?
Black powder, or a black powder substitute such as Pyrodex. Smokeless powder (modern gun powder) should not be used in a traditional muzzle loading firearm.
Must you shoot black powder shells only in a Charles Daly 12 gauge shotgun with fine Damascus barrels?
Yes, definitely, always, without exception. Pyrodex or similar powders which equal the characteristics of black powder may be used. Significant danger to the shooter and the gun will result if smokeless powder is used. Note many folks who know that their Damascus barrels are sound shoot modern shells through their guns. I have shot thousands of Winchester AA Feathers through my Damascus Daly. These shells have lower pressure that many black powder rounds.With a gun this fine you should join the DoubleGun BBS a place where old guns are talked about every day and shot alot. Also check out the German Gun Collectors website. Never shoot every day wally world shells but modern low pressure shell can be found without much trouble.
Is modern ammunition safe for a Acme 12 gauge side by side with damascus barrels?
NO ! In general, Damascus barrels were made for LOW pressure black powder loads. There are exceptions, but they are few. I do not recommend firing ANY Damascus barreled shotgun with ANY ammo until a gunsmith familiar with that type of barrel has inspected and borescoped it. Damascus barrels were made by wrapping hot strips of steel (or iron, or both) around a rod, reheating, and hammering until they welded together. Each weld (and there are thousands) is a potential point of failure IF the gun has been exposed to corrosion- like that that comes with firing black powder. I would retire it to a place of honor above the fireplace.
When was the shotgun made by eclypse gun co. The damascus double barrel with hammers?
Eclipse Gun Company is a name found on Belgian manufactured double barrels from around 1900-1916. The manufacturer was Henri Pieper. Please note that the Damascus barrels were meant for BLACK POWDER shotshells, and should not be fired with modern day ammo.
Where was a 12 gauge damascus twist double barrel black powder shotgun by J Pieper in 1896 manufactured?
Pieper was a Belgian gun maker, so it was most likely made in Belgium. Look for the Belgian black powder proof marks.
