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Do Christians go to heaven when they die or are they in the grave until the rapture?
August 06, 2013 4:46PM
The Soul goes to Heaven. The body goes into the grave until the rapture. After the body is taken to Heaven, it is transformed into a new Holy body.
Another viewThere is no such thing as the rapture. If there is(which there is not) show me proof in the Bible. I will gladly study with you.
John 17.(it would be good to read all of the chapter. but in verse 4 Jesus said "I have finished the work" when He comes back.it will be the last and final time.
when you die(when everyone dies) their body goes to the grave and their spiritual body goes to Hades.__(1 Corinthians 15:54-57)_54 So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: "Death is swallowed up in victory."55 "O Death, where is your sting? O Hades, where is your victory?" 56 The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
Luke 16 mentions Hell.A place after Hades.Hades is a waiting place until Christ comes.
If you are saved in Christ. you will go to Heaven. a place of comfort and rest___2 Thessalonians 1:7; " and to you who are troubled rest with us,when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels"
____2 Pet .1: 16; For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
____Acts 4:12;Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Another AnswerFirst, the term 'soul' is nephesh in the Hebrew and psuche in the Greek and it simply means breath of life. It is in all air-breathing animals and man. When any of these die, the bodies and soul die and go to the grave. But there is a spirit in man and this goes to God to be rejoined with another new physical body for that person at their resurrection to Judgement before Jesus Christ.
Ecclesiastes 12:7 New King James Version (NKJV)
7 Then the dust will return to the earth as it was,
And the spirit will return to God who gave it.
The term 'spirit' used here is 'ruach' and initially meant the same as nephesh (
in earliest times there was little distinction in Hebrew thought between a person's God-breathed ruach and his or her nephesh or soul).
Lastly, most will find this a bit shocking, but no human but Jesus has gone to Heaven (John 3:13). Heaven is coming down to the New Earth - the tabernacle of God will be amongst mankind - his new spiritual sons and daughters in the Family of God (Revelation 21).
Another viewEcclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was, and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it. All souls return to our father once the flesh body dies. That word spirit used is not nephesh as others have stated earlier its the Hebrew word ruwach (Strong's 7307), its the same as the word used in Genesis 1:2, to define our Fathers spirit.
Paul goes into great lengths concerning this discussion in 1 Corinthians chapter 15. where he defines your two bodies which your spirit (soul) can reside in. He defines one earthly and the other heavenly. You can not posses both bodies at the same time however.
The flesh is simply each souls probation time to choose of their own free will whether they will follow Christ or Satan.
Most folks are not taught biblical text, they simply listen to sermons one day of the week during church, therefore they miss this important teaching. You have a spirit (soul) which belongs to our father "behold all souls are mine" Ezekiel 18:4. Therefore Satan can not take your soul.
However, you can choose to follow him which may very well result in the destruction of your soul, in the lake of fire, during the white throne judgement (Revelation 20). The decision is yours and yours alone to bear, no one else will face your judgment but you alone, and what is written next to your name in the book of life. Therefore choose wisely.
There will be 1000 years of teaching prior to the white throne judgement (revelation chapter 20), however I would not suggest you wait until that time, personally I would rather you learn the word now and make a stand against the false christ.
The false christ will come (after the war with Iran - Persia re:Daniel 8-11). That is how close we are to the end of this earth age boys and girls. Once you see the West go to war with Iran, then know as it is written in the book of Daniel, that the appearance of Satan as the fake jesus is coming next. Don't follow after the first christ who appears, he is a fake.
Rapture is simply a lie. That lie is identified in the book of Exekiel chapter 13 starting with verse 17. The lie of rapture is founded upon the ideas of a young lass of port glastonbury Scotland, named Margret MacDonald. Margret was of the tribe of Dan and her account meets the prophecy of Dan as given in the book of Genesis 49:17.
The name doubghall of which donald is a sir name, is the identification of the dainties who came agains the isles of Scotland and Ireland in 1000 ad. T,he name means dark of black dane or dutch. The account of the Danite Margret MacDonald is well documented in glastonbury church history.
Finally, in Luke chapter 16 is the story of Lazarus and the Rich man, which defines what happens to those who allow themselves to become caught up in the cares of this life and ignore their responsibility to Christ and our Father. It is founded upon Deuteronomy 15:7 and the law to help out your poor brother. The rich man failed to achieve the commandment of Deuteronomy 15:7 and he was separated from the souls that are allowed around the throne of God and placed across the great gulf fixed with all the other souls which did not achieve the requirements of the law either. There they wait until the 1000 years of Christ teaching where they might have a chance at redeeming themselves.
It would be extreme grief to sit in a place where you can see the throne of our Father and Christ and know you can not go there and be among them. The grief one would feel in that place, knowing that your own actions condemned you, would be unbearable. This is what the bible describes as Hell.
Another AnswerThe only thing I might add for those who wish to believe in the "Rapture", read II Thess Chpt. 2, it makes it very clear we will not gather again to our Christ until the "Son of Perdition" has set at the top of the Temple Mount proclaiming himself to be God. There is only one "Son of Perdition", that simply means "pre-judged", you can read of that judgement in Ezk. 28. it is Satan. If you need further proof after you read your I Thess 4:16, the Trump mentioned there, what Trump is it? That's easy enough to answer go to I Cor 15:52, Paul tells you it is the Last Trump. Now Satan comes at the 6th. Trump, so that means Satan has to come on earth first as mentioned in Rev.12:7-9. Notice it did not say some man with dark swept back hair and sunglasses as shown on the TV shows, it said Satan, better get used to that idea. And, don't fear, your father is with you. Satan is not coming for death and destruction, he's coming as God to deceive you, he wants you to worship him. When you read for example in Rev. 9:18 that a third part of men were killed, it is Soul Slaughter, not physical death. That IS the Mark of the Beast, loving him instead of your Father. God has his mark on foreheads also, read Rev. 9:4. If you will read Rev 7:1-3 you will see your Father is holding back the four corners of the Earth to have your mind sealed. Why you ask is this going to happen, one reason is the false preaching going on. Read Hosea Ch.7:13-16, He's Mad. Read Vs. 13, he is tired of the lies and in Vs.14, He's tired of the rebellion of us doing things "our" way instead of the way he has commanded us. It's real simple, if you have a preacher that is just giving you but one or two verses of the Bible each week and puffing hot air for an hour. You better find yourself a man of God who will. Forget all this Non-Biblical Rapture doctrine nonsense, and stand up like a man or woman of God. God has plans for you. I know many of you are thinking, oh my preacher is not misleading me, then read Ezk.34, He's not so happy with his Shepherds. In Vs. 10 He Says I am against you. If then you wish to say, that's old Testament, then read Vs. 24, you should know who my servant "David" is, its Jesus, and He talks of his coming, that's future. I am may not as eloquent or as humble as the man who just answered you, but he told you the truth. God Bless Him for it!
Human beings are made up of 2 parts: Body and Soul. When someone dies, their temporary physical human Body of flesh breaks down and disintegrates until after a while there is nothing left except dust. However, when a Christian dies, although their physical body decays, their Soul goes immediately to Heaven. They (that is, their physical Body and spiritual Soul) are not stuck in the grave until the Rapture. The Souls of people who have already died are in heaven.
The Rapture is a Type for the people rising out of their graves at Christ's death on the Cross in Jerusalem, but they were the bodies of Old Testament saints being un-disintegrated [if there's such a word!] and resurrected to heaven. (There were no New Testament saints because Christ had just died).
Just as the bodies, or physical containers of the Soul, of the Old Testament saints left their graves at Christ's death, so the bodies of dead New Testament Christians will also leave their graves and disappear into the atmosphere.
1Th 4:17 KJ Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
The word air quoted from 1 thessalonians 4:17 KJV is Strong's Greek word 109: and it means to breath unconsciously, i.e. Respire; by analogy, to blow); "air" (as naturally circumambient). this is often mistaken by readers for the word sky. The Greek word air and the Latan word "Respire" refer to the breath of life as stated in Genesis 2:7 - And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul
Sky is Strong's Greek word 3772 - "Ouranos" with the definition: Perhaps from the same as oros (through the idea of elevation); the sky; by extension, heaven (as the abode of God); by implication, happiness, power, eternity; specially, the Gospel (Christianity) -- air, heaven(-ly), sky.
When Christians die they go straight to heaven, they are not in the grave until the rapture.