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Well, it does NOT. Because hot water has to cool down first from 45-100oC back to 0oC and cold water only from 15-5oC back to 0oC. This means that 3 to 20 times more energy (heat) has to be transferred to a cooling agent (of less than 0oC).

In practice however a lot of disturbing influences might occur. Even for the socalled Mpemba Effect there is no scientific explanation at all, though the observation has been verified.

A2. But just before you shut your mind, check out Mpemba Effect in Wiki.

And to round out your thermodynamics, try Leidenfrost Effect, where a low pressure boiler evaporates water faster than a high pressure one.

A3? Now! I don't actually understand HOW this happens...But!...It DOES happen! Today is 1-23-11...it was 4 Degrees F this morning. I woke to find the HOT water to my washer frozen BUT! NOT the cold? That is the 2nd time this week that this has happened! Back when I was in high school taking chemistry, me and my dad argued over this question more than once...I KNEW it couldn't be possible! But! now...over 40 years later...I have to admit...I've seen this happen DOZENS of times!?!?! Here's the conditions that this occurred...maybe this will inspire someone to figure it out...I would sure like to know the answer!

CONDITIONS: I have 2 x 1/2" PCVC lines about 35' long ran from the source (Hot & Cold) inside of a gray dense foam tube. All joints are sealed with Duct Tape. Several feet of both ends, source & where it goes up through the floor to the washer are also wrapped with fiberglass insulation and then covered with reflectix (Foil covered bubble wrap). That leaves 20' - 25' that is just in the foam tube. I thought that by running the hot & cold together in one insulated tube instead of insulating them separately would keep it warmer inside the tube to help keep things from freezing! I woke up to 4 Deg. F and Frozen hot but not cold?!?!

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No, simply because warmer water has a greater heat to give up, to achieve freezing than colder water. We are, of course, using the same conditions for each example--no added insulation for one case, no increased freezing air circulation, changes in atmospheric pressure, kinetic agitation, etc.

On average, it takes one BTU of heat energy to cause one pound of water to change its temperature by one degree. One BTU lost by one pound of water results in a one-degree drop (more or less) as you move from warmer water temperatures to colder.

Once you reach a water temperature of 32 degrees, a different physical property comes into play -- heat of fusion, or the amount of heat which must be transferred away from the water to cause it to change state from 32 degree water to 32 degree ice. That amount is a constant 144 BTU per pound of water.

While warmer water will initially lose heat at a faster rate to frigid air than cooler water, it by no means will race to freezing faster than water which has already been given a thermal "head-start" at a lower temperature.

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15y ago

This almost seems like a no-brainer. If you start with warm and cold water, the cold water will freeze faster since the warm water will have to be cooled first. However, if the water is sitting in pipes (i.i. water pipes under a trailer for example) the hot water pipes will freeze first if neither is used since they will both achieve the ambient air temperature. This is because the heating of the water will release some of the dissolved gases which would otherwise cause the water to freeze at a very slightly lower temperature. At least this was what I was taught in Science class years ago. (A friend I lived with years ago thought he could make ice faster by using warm water, but he only understood part of this and I had to prove to him that it was the other way around.)

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13y ago

No. An old wives tale.

What you may have heard about is the Mpemba effect which has merit based on the application for which it was noted but for regular household experiments, cold water freezes faster than hot.

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Well, it does NOT. Because hot water has to cool down first from 45-100oC back to 0oC and cold water only from 15-5oC back to 0oC. This means that 3 to 20 times more energy (heat) has to be transferred to a cooling agent (of less than 0oC).

In practice however a lot of disturbing influences might occur. Even for the so-called Mpemba Effect there is no scientific explanation at all, though the observation has been verified. The (wikipedia) article gives the optimal conditions for the experiment.

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Well, it does NOT. Because hot water has to cool down first from 45-100oC back to 0oC and cold water only from 15-5oC back to 0oC. This means that 3 to 20 times more energy (heat) has to be transferred to a cooling agent (of less than 0oC).

In practice however a lot of disturbing influences might occur. Even for the socalled Mpemba Effect there is no scientific explanation at all, though the observation has been verified.

A2. But just before you shut your mind, check out Mpemba Effect in Wiki.

And to round out your thermodynamics, try Leidenfrost Effect, where a low pressure boiler evaporates water faster than a high pressure one.

A3? Now! I don't actually understand HOW this happens...But!...It DOES happen! Today is 1-23-11...it was 4 Degrees F this morning. I woke to find the HOT water to my washer frozen BUT! NOT the cold? That is the 2nd time this week that this has happened! Back when I was in high school taking chemistry, me and my dad argued over this question more than once...I KNEW it couldn't be possible! But! now...over 40 years later...I have to admit...I've seen this happen DOZENS of times!?!?! Here's the conditions that this occurred...maybe this will inspire someone to figure it out...I would sure like to know the answer!

CONDITIONS: I have 2 x 1/2" PCVC lines about 35' long ran from the source (Hot & Cold) inside of a gray dense foam tube. All joints are sealed with Duct Tape. Several feet of both ends, source & where it goes up through the floor to the washer are also wrapped with fiberglass insulation and then covered with reflectix (Foil covered bubble wrap). That leaves 20' - 25' that is just in the foam tube. I thought that by running the hot & cold together in one insulated tube instead of insulating them separately would keep it warmer inside the tube to help keep things from freezing! I woke up to 4 Deg. F and Frozen hot but not cold?!?!

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Warm water does not freeze before cold water. This is simply a myth. The cooler the water, the less time it takes to cool down and freeze.

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no because it takes longer for the molecules to slow down in hot water

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It's an old wives' tale. Colder water freezes first. All else being equal. The warmer water has more heat energy to be removed.

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