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2015-07-16 19:22:21
2015-07-16 19:22:21

there should be 5 wires, hot and switched hot for the switch and hot, neutral and ground for the gfci receptacle.

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You find out which of the two black wires was installed incorrectly without being taped or sleeved in white. Then you put the white sleeve or tape on and connect the black and white wires to the hot and neutral terminals of the GFI, respectively. If you only have two black wires that are both "hot", such as in a single-pole light switch, you cannot install a GFCI there.

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