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I understand when Medicare is primary and when Medicare is secondary. What is the difference in coverage between a Medicare Supplement and Medicare as a secondary insurer?


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2010-09-26 01:09:13
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If you have a Medicare Supplement then the provider will bill Original Medicare first. At that time Medicare will pay the allowable amount and then return an explanation of benefits stating the beneficiary's portion. Based on the Medicare Supplement Plan that is in place (A-N) the Medicare Supplement will pay a portion or all of the remaining amount due. If they pay only a portion based on the plan (A-N), then according the plan guidelines, the beneficiary would pay any outstanding amount at that time.

If a Medicare beneficiary is covered on a employer or retiree group plan and due to the size of the plan, the group plan is primary, then the group plan benefits will apply first and any amounts due by the Beneficiary will be billed to Medicare second. If it is a Medicare covered service, then Medicare will pay the remaining amount due as the secondary payor up to the amount allowed by Medicare. If the service is not allowed by Medicare, than the beneficiary's co-insurance or co-payment under the group plan would be their responsibility.

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If a provider accepts Medicare they have to accept a standardized supplement. They may not accept a Medicare Advantage or a Medicare Supplement Select plan.

You will bill medicare as primary and the supplement secondary. Usually if filing a HCFA 1500 electronically if the supplemental policy is on the beneficiaries Common Working File with Medicare it will automatically crossover to the supplemental policy. Hope this helps....

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after getting the payment from medicare (Primary) then secondary (X/Y/Insurance should pay even if there is no auth. And only this happens if secondary insurance follow medicare guidelines.

If you already have Medicare Part A and are enrolled in Medicare Part B, you can get a Medicare Supplement. When it comes to having insurance at work, take a look page 16 in the 2009 Medigap Book:

If you are working then medicare is secondary (always)

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Medicare Supplement leads are information packets purchased from companies that give information about patients that will soon be eligible for Medicare. These companies track personal data about individuals and then sell them to interested insurance companies.

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