Knowing the gunmaker's name would help. If he's a nobody, it's a decoration worth a couple hundred bucks, but if he's somebody important and known for his craftsmanship, it could be thousands.
The use of damascus barrels on guns began to decrease pretty rapidly after 1900, although they were still fairly common up until the start of WWI. If you have a breech loading gun with damascus barrels it will probably date from 1875 - 1910. Most damascus barrels on U.S. guns seem to have actually made in Belgium. There is a lot of debate as to whether any damascus barrels for shotguns were actually made in the U.S. It seems likely there may have been small numbers produced in the U.S. However, Belgium had a large gunmaking trade at the time, with a lot of barrel makers specializing in damascus barrels, so it was generallly cheaper to import them than to make them.
Some did, but not all.
They are still being made.
The time of the First World War pretty much ended the importation of Damascus barrels. US manufacture started petering out in the 1890's.
About $100 or so. The damascus/twist steel barrels are generally considered unsafe to shoot with modern ammunition.
Does it read "kec" or "ked"? The Remington web site indicates 4 grades of Remington model 1900 double barrel shotguns (http://www.remington.com/library/history/firearm_models/shotguns/model_1900.asp): Grades Offered: K - Remington steel barrelsKE - Remington steel, auto ejectorsKD - 2 stripe Damascus barrelsKED - 2 strip Damascus, auto ejectors
no . riverside was mainly produced after 1914, using fluid steel barrels.
Custom order is a possibilty.
It depends on the grade,hammer or hammerless,damascus,condition of case colors and wood and blueing,etc.Also a bunch of other factors like engraving,length of barrels,how they are choked.I just put $1600 in a 1889 G grade hammer with damascus in good shape...Mike
DO NOT FIRE WITH MODERN AMMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MUST be checked out by a gunsmith.
no not all twist barrells
I'm not sure exactly what you're asking here. Generally a shotgun with Damascus barrels (those showing a spiral pattern on the outside, since they were made from spiralling layers of metal) will have been made for black powder only. In their time, fine Damascus barrels were considered a superior option, but caution should be exercised shooting such guns now, and definitely only black powder should be used. If in doubt, get the gun checked by a qualified gunsmith.
We cant find one for you here. Browning Arms Co never made a shotgun with damascus barrels as far as we know. Its possible that a gun was made with those barrels built on one of Brownings patents.
With the serial number that you provided,your Ithaca double barrel shotgun with the damascus barrels was produced in the year 1900.
Damascus is a method of making laminated barrels. A series of wires is braided and hammer-welded to create a distinctive pattern of loops and swirls. Well-made Damascus barrels were the best available before modern steel and many well-maintained 100-year-old Damascus guns are still being used. On the other hand if the gun has not been properly cared for, hidden rust pockets may have compromised the barrels and cause a dramatic failure. If you are tempted to fire an old shotgun, have it inspected by a qualified gunsmith first.
they were made out of steel in 1885 They were all made with steel barrels. The earliest, by Lefever & Barber Co in 1874-75 were damascus or laminated steel. Fluid steel barrels would have been introduced about 1900.
Any where from $250 to $550. Depending on the condition of the gun.
Eclipse Gun Company is a name found on Belgian manufactured double barrels from around 1900-1916. The manufacturer was Henri Pieper. Please note that the Damascus barrels were meant for BLACK POWDER shotshells, and should not be fired with modern day ammo.
Those early Belgian guns are generally considered wall hangers. Most have a form of twisted-wire barrel construction. If yours is actually 'Fine Damascus' and not actually laminated steel, and if the engraving is better than typical it might bring $200-$300. If it is the standard JABC (just another Belgian clunker) it will top out at $150 as a mantel decoration.
Steel or Damascus barrels?
Quite often the shotgun will tell you how the barrels are made. If it says "twist" or "laminated" or "damascus", then it is one of the types generally called damascus. If it says "armory", "forged", or "fluid" then it is a more modern construction. Damascus barrels will show a pattern, although it can be covered with bluing or the pattern can be simulated. You can check by removing the forearm and polishing a small spot on the bottom of the barrel. This will remove either the bluing that hides the pattern or the simulated damascus pattern. As far as safety, the best damascus constructed barrels are stronger than a low-quality fluid steel barrel, and probably equal to most when new. But time will weaken the welds, so it is wise to retire an old damascus gun unless you know it has had proper care for its entire lifetime. Since your gun is marked for smokeless powder, it is PROBABLY fluid steel and PROBABLY has 2 3/4" chambers, but if you intend to shoot it, have it checked by a competent gunsmith and follow his recommendations. Damascus barrels were made to be used with black powder and so are thicker at the breach (to handle the fast explosion of powder) and thinner at the muzzle, as black powder. Due to the fact that modern smokeless powder buns at a slower pace, thus building up more pressure towards the muzzle which could cause the metal to split or rupture, it is not recommended that modern ammo be used in a Damascus barrel.
NO ! In general, Damascus barrels were made for LOW pressure black powder loads. There are exceptions, but they are few. I do not recommend firing ANY Damascus barreled shotgun with ANY ammo until a gunsmith familiar with that type of barrel has inspected and borescoped it. Damascus barrels were made by wrapping hot strips of steel (or iron, or both) around a rod, reheating, and hammering until they welded together. Each weld (and there are thousands) is a potential point of failure IF the gun has been exposed to corrosion- like that that comes with firing black powder. I would retire it to a place of honor above the fireplace.