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Initial quick answer to be improved: the manager of a bank in the recent Batman movie the Dark Knight, lamented how there used to be honor among thieves in Gotham.

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The phrase "honor among thieves" is a proverb that has been around for centuries. It reflects the idea that even those engaged in illegal activities may still have a code of behavior or ethics that they adhere to within their own group, despite their criminal actions.

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