Sparta

daa Sparta brought the soldiers ndd the Athens brought theirr navy (:

Sparta's strength was it's military. Boys would begin training at the age of 7 and would live separate from the rest of Spartan society until they were 20 years old. Sparta had a strong, professional hoplite army.

it lokked like a peice of ***

Quite the reverse! When the first Spartan settlers arrived in Laconia, it was so amazingly beautiful and abundant in all they would need the world basically lost contact with them becasue they were too busy enjoying their new land (which they stole from the natives by force and enslaved them, good old Spartans!)

Sparta's military was famously brutal and single-minded, both in their own time and to our modern sensibilities. Spartan families would leave infant males in the wild for days at a time, and their survival meant military service. They kept sparse accommodations (living a "Spartan" lifestyle) and freely promoted a sexualized mentorship program in order to foster greater devotion to their comrades.

Nobody killed her. She went back to Menelaus.

Spartan men were encouraged to marry at the age of 20. Although, if they were not married by the age of 30, it became compulsory. Spartan men were not allowed to live at their homes until they have finished the 10 years of military service, starting at the age of 20. In these ten years, if they were married, they lived away from their home and in their barracks with the syssita. When they turned 30 they went into the reserve, and could move home.

Sparta: better military, more rights for woman, oligarchy government, land locked Athens: better navy, less rights for woman, good democratic government, near a good source of water Please note that even though Athens had a smaller army, they could still win. Remember the battle of the Marathon? They were greatly outnumbered, but still claimed victory. For more information, click the Explore link in the Sparta link in the Related link.

Because the leaders thought that a military society created more obedient and loyal citizens

In Book IV of the Odyssey it's clear that they both feel positively about Odysseus, Helen relates a story which shows his mastery of disguise and Menelaus says Odysseus was a close friend of his and he desperately wants to see him again (as Odysseus has been missing for 10 years), the story of the Trojan horse is also told, showing Odysseus' cunning and intellect. Both of them hgave nothing but praise for him.

they were to go to a type of school where they learned reading, combat and survival skills.

A woman actually, would be better living in Sparta in my point of view. The women in Sparta could own property, houses, and even have an opinion. Although, the women in Sparta were brought up to be hard towards the value of life and actually trained to be fit and strong. That's only if you are a true Spartan, because there are three different 'levels'. A helot, which was a slave. You weren't a citizen, and were often killed if you posed a threat or if there was too many helots. Then the next level (the name escapes me) which you had no political say and were basically just a tad bit better then slaves. The true Spartans looked down upon both classes, as they felt they were of more importance. Women in Athens, however were not as lucky as the true Spartans. There were no levels in Athens, either. The women there, were not citizens; only the men. They had no say in politics or any other matter. They were expected to stay at home or only be seen out getting food for the family.

Marco Menelau's birth name is Marco Antonio Menelau.

in Sparta were only free men citizens?

Women is Sparta had more rights than women in athens. For example: women in Sparta could inherite property while women in Athens could not. Women in Athens were also opressed... they had children and were expected to be a good house wife, being a weaver or potter. Women in Sparta were not oppresed because their husbands were never at home (either at war or in the barracks) Spartan women were supposed to have healthy babies each year (if they babies were unhealthy the babies were put in a pot and left abonded)

he didn't travel with menelaus' son. (menelaus only has one son by the way). he traveled from pylos with king nestors son, peisratus, to get to Sparta where menelaus lives.

The Spartans used Helots to till their land. These were, however, not slaves but serfs - that is they were bound to the land and delivered half their produce to Sparta. They were also used in war as light infantry, and the best of them freed from serfdom after good performance.

All of the suitors of Helen, which was essentially every king in Greece, took a vow that they would defend the honor of whomever was chosen as her husband, so as to prevent war from breaking out over the quest for her hand.

When she was spirited away by Paris, Menelaus forced them to fulfill their oaths. They laid siege to Troy for 10 years before finally defeating the city and razing it to the ground.

An underlying foundation of war knowledge. Athenians focused on strategy while Spartans used the idea of strengthening the army with strategy applying later on as you moved up the ranks of their massive military.

No. But legend says that he tried 3 times and all 3 were crushing defeats.

In Sparta Males were considered citizens because males were usually the ones who had to go into the military to fight in wars at the age of 69 years old. The food there was not very delightful and there was not that much to eat, they smoked weed to heal wounds too. And usually if the boy was a weak baby when the king had examined the baby they would have to suck its tiny dick and move on to the next one in line. And all they wore was a scottish skrit as in those times that was the fashion.

Depends on whether you mean historically accurate uniforms or glammed up costumes for films like "300"?

In reality the Spartans were renowned for their heavy infantry and uniform would be similar to the Roman legions (i.e. armour over cloth) - however whereas the Roman legions wore almost exclusively mass produced banded mail (except for the officer corp who could afford either by position/standing or wealth a solid breast plate).

The Spartans appear to have had a much higher ratio of solid breast plate. Although the idea that they all were armoured in a uniform fashion is unlikely to be true; Armour was expensive to make and would, along with weapons, be handed down from generation to generation so, just as today, different patterns and styles would be evident in any large force.

Also worn would be a cloth or leather tunic; grieves to protect the lower leg and a skirt/kilt probably made of toughened leather. not enough to stop a determined and well aimed thrust but good enough to deflect a glancing blow from both melee and projectile weapons (think of how tough boot leather is and you wont go to far wrong). this gave the spartan some protection of the upper leg whilst still enabling a large amount of freedom and manoeuvrability

The styling of the helm and shield appears to be two of the few things that the film "300" were relatively accurate about, oh and the red cloak. The Greeks believed Red to be a lucky colour (something that the Romans later picked up too).

For a depiction of the Spartan uniform taken from art on pottery of the period and also more historically accurate artwork from a later period check these images out:

http://cd7.e2bn.net/e2bn/leas/c99/schools/cd7/website/images/greek-spartan-warriors-1.jpg

and

http://bfcz.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/spartan-warriors.jpg

hope this helps

spartan boys leaned how to read and write but a majority of what they learned was training to be a solider.

It was the hardest life anybody could have. All the Spartans did from age 5-21 is train for war. At age 7 the spartan boys were taken to the Agoge to train for war, they would fight each other train all day everyday, the girls would run for stong babies and learn about life and train also for war. After the boys turn 18 they would have to kill a helot (a slave) to pass there training. After they finish there training they immediately go into the barraks for war