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well there was never any real proof but a heres a few. Comic galvatron can nuke planets and somtimes even galaxys in 1 shot. powermaster optimus prime is stronger than him even without apex armor his apex armor would make him much more powerfull essecilly with all of god ginrais god powers and element controll and the power of a supreme god and a matrix more powerfull than the sun. metroplex was atleast thosends of feet tall he lfted a mouten with 1 arm fortress maximus is bigger than him. (and sometimes super ginrai is the smae size a him). fortress maximus has photon cannons to. devestator while damaged lifed 600 million pounds with 1 arm. star saber has much more power than god ginrai and victory saber surpasses even him. dai atlas with the zodaic is strong to. but other than unicron and primus it would either be engergon optimus prime (he beat unicron but that was with the power of primus and stuff) it would be star convoy he has all of the zodaic power he has the power of the big bang itself

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Frenzy is the weakest transformer.

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