You get past both of them by defeating all 16 gym leaders in the game, then going to see prof. Oak in pallet town.
you have to beat all 8 gym leaders in joto before you can go to victory road
you have to get all the johto badges then go to victory road show them 2 him and then face the ELITE 4 (good luck)....
he can be found in victory road
beat the Pokemon luegue then go to the Pokemon centre
It is rare on Victory Road and in the Safari Zone.
It is located somewhere in victory road
Go through the mystery tunnel then up the rider road
tell me
Moltres is in Mt. Silver, which is west of victory road.
Rhyhorn Is Found In The Safari Zone And Victory Road.
you have to get 16 badges the fire one is in one of the islands and you get all 16 badges go to victory road and go past the guard on the left
In HeartGold/SoulSilver you can find a Ryhorn on Victory Road or in the Safari Zone. In the Safari Zone, it's in 'savannah' areas.