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Some would attribute morality to God, saying that without God there can be no morality. This very issue was examined by Plato in one of his Dialogues. Here, Euthyphro seeks to define goodness in terms of what the gods would want. At this point, Plato has Socrates raise the Euthyphro Dilemma: 'Do the gods choose what is good because it is good, or is the good good because the gods choose it?' If the first option is true, this shows that good is good independent of the gods (or in modern terms, God) - good is good and that is why a good god will always choose it. If the second option is true, this makes the very idea of what is good arbitrary. If something is good simply because the gods choose it, then what is to stop the gods choosing torture, thus making it good?

The problem with the second option in answer to the the Euthyphro Dilemma is that for God to choose torture, thus making it good, is absurd. But the reason it is absurd is that we believe torture is wrong and that is why God would never choose it. To recognise this is to recognise that we do not need God to determine right or wrong.

Euthyphro had tried to attribute morality to the gods, but Socrates showed him that no such attribution is possible. So it is if we attribute morality to God. Morality comes from within and is guided and informed by our consciences.

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