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Im assuming you mean in the cave of orgin for the rage of the two ancient pokemon... In ruby you can beat the elete four then surf down the way to pacifilodge town and about half way down there is a tower where you catch raquazia. its the same in saphire. in emerald you can get the two orbs you need after you beat the elete four and wake up groudon and kyroge with thema and catch them

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