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The MDiv is the normative educational credential for really serious chuch groups and denominations.And one may not, typically, enter an MDiv program until one has a bachelors degree of some kind, first.An MDiv contains from 72 to 90 semester credit hours of coursework; plus, quite often, what's called a "practicum," wherein the pastor-to-be spends some time learning from an experienced pastor, in a real church. It can take up to five years to complete an MDiv program that includes up to 90 semester credit hours of coursework, plus a practicum. Even a 72-semester-credit-hour MDiv, with no practicum, should still take at least three years.And, of course, the bachelors degree, before one can even begin an MDiv, takes four years, after high school. Or, it can be a two-year associates (which counts as the first two years of the bachelors), and then the last two years of the bachelors... either way, it's four years of undergraduate study after high school before the MDiv may even be started.You asked about number of subjects...At either the undergraduate (associates and bachelors) level, each subject or class or course is worth 3 semester credit hours; and so, then, a 120-semester-credit-hour bachelors degree contains forty (40) courses or classes or subjects, whatever word you want to use.At the graduate (MDiv) level, each course (or class, or subject) is also worth, on average, three (3) semester credit hours; and so, then, if the MDiv contains 90 semester credit hours of coursework, then that's 30 courses (or subjects, or classes... again, whatever word you want to use). If it's an only-72-semester-credit-hour MDiv, then just divide 72 by 3 and that will tell you how many courses are in it.Some (not many, but a few) MDiv programs contain 84 semester credit hours; which, again, if divided by 3 will tell you how many courses or classes or subjects it contains.Remember, though, that graduate-level coursework, such as found in an MDiv program, is a lot harder than undergraduate (associates/bachelors) level coursework. So, then, what I'm saying is that you'd work quite a bit harder to earn three semester credit hours of MDiv credit than you will in order to earn that same number of semester credit hours at the undergrad (associates/bachelors) level. So, then, in other words, each MDiv course is not-insignificantly harder than each associates and/or bachelors degree course. 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