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The popular idea is that the Cossacks invented them in Russia. It is known that rifles issued to Coissack units as late as Nicholas II had two caliber markings: In Cossack three vertical lines implying .30 Caliber and the orthodox metric stamp of7.62MM This seemes to make sense, they or things liek them wee also used by Indians trading with the Hduson Bay comapny inCanada. any preliterate people havinga need for recording nujmeral would staret with base Five! The situaion is well in Hand, Comrade! by they way their use was discouraged in math classes when I was a kidMaybe the Mcarthy scare.

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