Do Hellenistic and orphic religions have the same concept as Zeus being the creator God?
@ Hades sorry agian
Okay This is quite skecthy, allow me to explain. First of the
greek word for God is "Deus" or "Theon"
They were Comologiclie ignorant of the universes structure. God
is an old english word for "Good" (better) and "high". Higher
power. Thats what deus means in greek. The Mythologicle Writers
created These "higher powers" to represent earthlly elements. Zeus
is dirrived from deus. The greeks, Not Mythologiclelly but
philoshpiclley (sorry for my spelling) Refreded to a being known as
"the one". They were theisticlly agnostic literally speaking. They
named him deus (higher power) witch over time changed to "Zeus" as
the "One". Folklore and Legend created the God Zeus. Zeus is Greek
for
All father,All powerfull one and supreme God as said above. He
as a mythologicle charicter Was The "Ultimate God" personifieng
they Heaven and ruling The Cosmos. As he developt threw folklore
and 1,000s of years of stories he evolved Into a Human like
charicter. Many Epics and stories On how he devolped to become the
"Ultimate Supereme God". Actully there are 5 Earths and races in
allmost every mytholgie 5 Navjo worlds, 5 Aztec earths, 5 Human
races in greek mytholgy. Wanna know the spooky part theres been 5
major extinctions in the earths history. How ever Aside from that
on a nother branch of the hellenistic meta series of myths this
still happens exept for eating phanes and recreating the universes.
The reason for that is Zeuses universal/omniverseral Ultimate
devolpment to become henothesticlly supreme. Late orphic cosmology
and Mythology are Henothestic. This was to form allogoricle
concepts to Deus/Zeus/The Ones creation of the universe in human
understanding for creation Zeus ate the phanes and created the
universe we live in. So its like a human understanding for a
Monothestic/Henothestic concept of the universes creation. So Zeus
Yes is the ultimate creator God of this universe. Greece has the
longest creation epic ever spaning from the Primal Gods all the way
to when Zeus and phanes fought. And By the way Chronos Has no
powers Time is a driving force that controlls the Cosmos and all
creation in The universe. He can not and dose not interact with the
3 dimentanal creation He dos not fight he dose not do any thing
Time will Fic,Create,Destroy and do anything. If time Gos on
forever Any thing happens So techecally its Omnipresent and near
Omnipotent since anything can happen. Phanes did not created
Chronos it was the other way around Chronos Forged a Cosmic Egg
witch Protogoneus (i think thats his name)
Was born. It means first born also known as phanes. Also
Hellenistic Mythology is a meta series so the storie branch off and
can be diffrent so you may have herd another version Since
Techneclly speaking theres no right or wrong answer. And also about
Chronos creating the Cosmic egg and not the universe he did. Not to
confuse you with what i said above he never interacts after this.
This "Cosmic egg" is refred to as "Chaos" Basiclly Chaos or Khaos
in litarrell Greek spelling Was a Cosmic inflation of every element
in history Gaia (Geae)-The earth Tartarus-underworld ECT. Combine
How ever Khaos was also a Goddess she was goddess of fate and many
other things as i will explain. She is the first goddess with all
other Beings in her she was the first Non Trans-dementanal
God/Goddess. So she was the cosmic inflation of every possible
element. Then She kind off exploaded like a "Big bang" Then out
came the Protogini or Primal Gods Choas is the primal Void the Air
or Infinte cosmic viod like the Blackness in the universe then the
earth and under world and light dark ect. So She was the universe
and the other Primal Gods were components of the universe as she
created, separted or gave birth to them. (you get the point) The
first to emerge was phanes the most powerfull he was not a leader
but his job was God of creation and cosmic order he was the gardion
of reality. He had immense Cosmic power. he did not interact unless
he needs to create order in the universe. When Uranus was born he
was rivlend with his power he Ruled while phanes was the gardion.
Uranus was the first "Sky-Father" In Greek mythology god of the sky
was the most powerfull and highest rank in the mythology. Who ever
held it had immense power and athortie over the rest of the
pantheon first held by Uranus then Cronos and now Zeus. After many
Cosmic wars (Titanomacy,Giganteomacy,Battle with Typhon) and many
others all caused Chaos (not the Goddess) but disorder in the
universe witch zeus later lock in a box. The titanomacy nearlly
destroyed the universe so he rebuilt but the hate and abstract
evils were still there the Gigantomacy and many other battles
caused more and more cosmic disorder. As i Said above Zeus has had
many many adventures in his life and lots of power and charicter
devolpment. He had many magic powers and wepons (Skyfather
power,Lighting ect.) witch increased his power So phanes
interjected and zeus killed then ate him then destroyed and
rectreaed everything (not itme since that is trans-dimental and as
i said kind of doese not exist) And created His universe gaining
yet another power So he is the Ultimate God the source of all
creation and created our universe we are in. So Yes you are correct
Late Greece became "Henothestic" and Zeus was the creator god in
some branches of the Mythos