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No, not at all. ==I disagree== I have learned that some narcissists need to de-personalize sex in order to participate. That is to say that they do not wish to share in the give and take of a shared sexual experience, and are more comfortable with porn, masturbation, etc. Some N's use withdrawal of sex as a form of punishment,(mine did) but that does not mean they do without themselves!I discovered my N had a fascination for womens underwear, among other things. I believe the fantasy involved is meant as a substitute for real sex that likely makes them feel dependent on someone else. No narcissist wants that! Sharing is beneath them. They are supremely selfish. Fetishism? If it serves this purpose for the N, you bet they do! Nothing said in the second response shows any **general** link between Narcissism and fetishism. Most fetishes are harmless and most fetishists are NOT narcissists. Joncey

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