When you failed 5 urinalysis test in the last 2 week's and start taking Sonne 7 will it show a change in blood testing for the military?

Answer 1

You failed five urinalyses in the last two weeks? You may want to reconsider your career plans.

As to your question: some people say it works, some say it doesn't. (The military does urine tests, not blood tests--lots cheaper and less training for the test administrators.) One guy said his girlfriend used it two weeks before her test and passed...since I don't know how much weed she smokes I can't give you a real assessment of Sonne's because two weeks of abstinence will make an occasional smoker test clean, without doing anything else.

Now as to the other thing: The military doesn't give you a lot of notice before it conducts drug tests. The one you take when you first enlist you'll know about, and any time you move from one base to another (say, from the schoolhouse at Fort Sill to your permanent unit at Fort Carson) you'll know about that one, but the rest of the time? Let me tell you how I conduct drug tests. Most drug test NCOs do it the same way--I can't say "all" because there might be an occasional one who'll let his buddies know about an upcoming test so they can spend the night trying to cleanse themselves, but this is how the honest ones do it.

Step 1: The company commander decides she wants to test her unit. She can either test part of it, or do a "unit sweep" and test everyone. She calls me to her office.

Step 2: "Jim, I want a random drug test. Let's test twenty-four soldiers." (The installation drug test office can only test a certain number of soldiers every day so she has to call them and ask how many she can have. It's always a multiple of twelve because there are twelve bottles in a box. And I always asked company commanders to address me by name, not rank.) When we're not testing the whole unit, we pick a number, then we look at the last four digits of everyone's Social Security number; anyone who has that number in his or her last four is a candidate. I give her the four digits in my last four, and she picks a number that isn't one of them--there can't be a situation where I could be a candidate. Today she picked 5. Normally she'll pick a number that's in her own last four, but it's not a requirement. One of my commanders had three digits in his last four that matched mine--mine was 1234 (not really but it works here) and his was 8234. If he always picked 8 a whole lot of people would have known they could smoke dope with no fear of detection. Generally, if the CO's last four was 8765 and none of those digits was in my last four, he'd use 8 on one test, then 7, then 6 and finally 5 before cycling back around to 8. Some of these guys have monthly tests. The commander of another outfit that liked to have me test his troops--nothing says the test administrator has to be in YOUR unit; I've tested infantry companies and I've never been an infantryman--tested every freakin' WEEK.

Step 3: I have a company roster. I go down it and find all the soldiers who have 5 in their last four, and make a list. If there are 24 soldiers in that list, that's who gets tested. If there are more, I have to choose 24 of them. If there are less I call the CO: "Ma'am, pick another number." She knows there aren't 24 soldiers with that number in the company at that point. But if there are 30 soldiers in the company that have a 5 in their last four, I pick 24 of them.

Step 4: I go to the drug test office half an hour before they close and pick up all the supplies I need. I wrap them in a towel and put them in a laundry bag. Then I wait until after we release the soldiers for the day to come back to the company. Many sergeants are not at last formation for various reasons, so I always made sure to have a reason to not be there two or three times a week. This way the soldiers would think I was at the communications center or over at division headquarters instead of picking up specimen bottles. This works--in several years of drug testing no one ever figured out I was picking bottles up. Since I always carried a laundry bag with a box in it back to the company whether I had bottles or not, no one thought anything of me coming in with a bag full of specimen bottles. Every commander has a lockable filing cabinet. I would put the bottles in it and lock it with a Series 200 lock I had paid for; since no one else had the key, a soldier who came up positive couldn't say someone tampered with the bottles.

Step 5: On the morning of the test, the company would have a formation. After the first sergeant gets accountability, he calls me to the front. I will take charge of the formation and say something like "This company will conduct a random urinalysis at this time. The following personnel will participate" and name the 24 troops I'm going to test. They will drop out of the larger formation and gather at the end of it. I will then name two or three NCOs I want to be observers, and they will join the testing group. Those soldiers will then be escorted to the hallway near the latrines and the water fountain, where they will stay until they are tested. All military testing is observed testing.

In other words, when you are in the military you will be subject to true no-notice urinalyses. About the only other profession I can think of that is even close is aviation, where an FAA drug test proctor will walk onto an airplane that just landed with a box of bottles and test the whole crew.