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Bobby Ramirez was the drummer, and a damned good one, while I was with the 10-piece band in '68-'69. I played tenor sax next to Dale Gothia on alto. Bobby was a very encouraging member of the band and a close friend of Jerry's. When I got home from the Army in '72 I heard he was killed in a drug deal gone bad in a nightclub. But I don't know if it's true.

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