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The question is ... why bother trying? People are held responsible for their own actions and I wouldn't touch this one with a 10 foot pole. Don't bother trying because you won't get through to either of them. Sorry Marcy

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How do you separate a narcissist from his willing victim?

The question I have for you is why would you want to do this? I understand that you think that this narcissist is bad news, but your question specifies the other person involved is "willing". Perhaps you do not understand the dynamics of the relationship properly. Maybe you are meddling where you shouldn't. Take a look at your reasons for doing this before proceeding. I understand what you are asking since I used to be one of those "willing" victims who was dazzled by the narcissist's charm. Lots of people did try to warn me that I was being used, but I was too much in the thrall of the narcissist. It took 8 years and 2 divorces before I came to my senses. Sadly I don't think you yourself can save the victim of a narcissist. The victim has to save themselves. You can tell them what you know during a time when they seem willing to listen, and hope they will eventually save themselves. Most do eventually get out. It is easy to get away from a narcissist once the charm wears thin and you finally see through them. The more frequently the victims hear the truth from others, the more likely they will get out sooner. When they finally do get out, they will be a lot wiser. Personal boundaries might be a good neutral topic to discuss with the victim of a narcissist, since that is one area where a narcissist runs rampant over his victim. If the victim realized how much his/her personal boundaries are being ignored, the victim could begin to put two and two together.


How can you recognize a 'narcissist'?

(Note: Narcissistic Personality Disorder is something that can only be identified by a mental health professional who has examined the person in question. Other than that, "narcissist" is a word meaning "loves oneself excessively" and is susceptible to varying interpretations.)1:A Narcissist is someone who takes their self-esteem from the way others view them. Their personality will therefore center around how he or she is viewed.Narcissism looks like this... Your partner treats you and perhaps your children very different in private than in public. In public he may ignore you giving all of his attention to others, or pretend to be the perfect husband or father, while in private he may be sarcastic, haughty and insulting. He may put people down behind their back. He may have a very inflated sense of entitlement and ego, thinking he deserves things that he hasn't worked for or earned and he may manipulate situations for attention, acting a bit too good to be true. This can fool people and so few of them will believe how he talks to his family in private (I say 'he', because I write from our experience, but there are plenty of abusive women with narcissism). He may also show little or no regard for your well being or your feelings.2:Unfortunately that's not all...He may lie about you or paint a bad picture of you to gain sympathy from others and to justify his own bad behaviour. You probably have no idea of all of the lies he is telling you and the bad things he may be saying about you to others ...If he makes fights when you try and talk about money he may be hiding credit cards or money transactions from you and his narcissism will cause him to pretend these fights are your fault.Many narcissists are obsessed by the fantasy of an ideal relationship that is 'perfect' (and therefore fantasy!) and are skilled liars. So if the above symptoms of narcissism describe your partner, you should also be aware that he may habitually have secret crushes on other women, be having affairs, using pornography habitually, and/or conducting 'cyber' affairs (while lying that he is single) all without you having any knowledge of this. If you notice that your partners mind is often somewhere else, and they show narcissistic tendencies, this could be the reason. This obsession with his own inner fantasy life is part of what makes him unavailable, impatient and cross with you. It is a major symptom of the disorder.Not all people with narcissism are physically abusive, but it is also a significant indicator that you will wind up being part of a domestic violent marriage. The physical abuse is not always perpetrated by the narcissist either. It is normal to become very angry with someone who manipulates you and puts you down. It is normal after years of this treatment, (especially if you discover that they have been lying to and cheating on you) to even want to kill them or wish them dead, so getting the right help and support is very important, and can be very hard to find.There are very few people who understand narcissism or believe there is any cure, and those who say to 'leave and have no contact' are giving you very dangerous advice. If you want to leave, please get advice first on how to do it safely.Trying to diagnose someone with a disorder is not a really a good idea when there are many who will then say that you must divorce them and have no contact and that there is no cure.If your partner displays this behaviour it is not important to figure out the correct diagnosis, what you need to do is take steps to protect yourself and save your marriage before it is too late.My husband was diagnosed NPD and yet still he got better and we have a great marriage now. We help partners of narcissists save their marriages too.3:WRONG. The correct answer is - you can not recognize a narcissist. At least not a smart, experienced narcissist. It is a matter of survival for them to not let anyone know there true nature. (See note at top of page)


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Why would a narcissist say they have no or low self esteem?

the general consensus amongst psychologists seems to be that the disorder is compensatory. while the narcissist may truly believe him/herself to be good-looking and intelligent, they clearly do not feel these attributes are enough to make them a truly superior being, hence the need they feel for the aggrandizing lies about themselves and reinforcing their superiority to others in each and every relationship and interaction in their (fantasy) lives, big or small.my ex N would try to be falsely self depracating, but could never keep the act up for long. she was obviously hoping I would effusively contradict her seemingly modest statements, but it was a tactic i recognised so i rarely indulged her. i guess she just got tired of waiting for me to start gushing over her and her eventual statements in which her formidable ego reared its head once again, seemed to be a result of her internal voice protesting 'BUT I *AM* GORGEOUS/MENSA MATERIAL/A LOVELY PERSON!' a good example of this is when i told her she was pretty, and she said 'I'm not,' and then some thirty seconds later: 'my friends tell me i have a natural beauty.' her eventual conclusion would be either someone someone else (supposedly) said, or a half-hearted admission that she actually was quite something.she also once claimed that she looked in the mirror and inspected herself as often as she did 'because i hate myself. most people do it 'cause they love themselves, but i do it cause i hate myself.' and i quite believed her: it probaly was due to some sort of insecurity that she felt the need to change her look all the time and reassure herself that she looked good.AnswerWhen I first read the question I was confused. A pathological NNN admitting to low self esteem was an eye opener. Then I found out it came from the mouth of a 16 year old. Young people with such a diagnosis who can admit to having a problem can be salvaged. Teenagers are notorious for age appropriate N-ism. Usually diagnosis for N-ism is reserved for adults.There is hope your daughter will be able to get on top of her personality problems and learn to manage them for her and everyone's benefit.It is vitally important that all people involved with this girl's upbringing look hard at themselves as to their contribution to her personality. Almost always the carers are the parent(s).AnswerA narcissist may say they have low self esteem, or, most likely, act like they have low self esteem, to control the feelings of others. The narcissist may be trying to manipulate more people into liking him/her. Answer:Narcissists invalidate those who care about them in order to camouflage their fragile psyches. Invalidating behavior can be mild, 'I like your hair the way you used to wear it," to malicious, having an affair and rationalizing it as ok, long as his wife doesn't find out--arrogantly bragging, "she never has before!"Wherever he goes, others are appalled by his pernicious declarations.Invalidation allows an imaginary wall to be erected between the narcissist's low opinion of himself and those who care deeply about the cancerous torment and pain of which he cannot rid himself. That wall eventually will come crashing down.The question is will anyone be on the other side to rescue him and save him from himself? a shakesperean tragedy....


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The question I have for you is why would you want to do this? I understand that you think that this narcissist is bad news, but your question specifies the other person involved is "willing". Perhaps you do not understand the dynamics of the relationship properly. Maybe you are meddling where you shouldn't. Take a look at your reasons for doing this before proceeding. I understand what you are asking since I used to be one of those "willing" victims who was dazzled by the narcissist's charm. Lots of people did try to warn me that I was being used, but I was too much in the thrall of the narcissist. It took 8 years and 2 divorces before I came to my senses. Sadly I don't think you yourself can save the victim of a narcissist. The victim has to save themselves. You can tell them what you know during a time when they seem willing to listen, and hope they will eventually save themselves. Most do eventually get out. It is easy to get away from a narcissist once the charm wears thin and you finally see through them. The more frequently the victims hear the truth from others, the more likely they will get out sooner. When they finally do get out, they will be a lot wiser. Personal boundaries might be a good neutral topic to discuss with the victim of a narcissist, since that is one area where a narcissist runs rampant over his victim. If the victim realized how much his/her personal boundaries are being ignored, the victim could begin to put two and two together.


Is it wrong to tell someone that you do not know that they are dealing with a narcissist?

Wow...I was wondering the same thing. I know for sure that someone I do not know "personally" is dealing with a narcissist. Yet, I would say follow your gut on this one. If you have had an experience with the narcissist that can actually enlighten the person in question, it may not hurt. It will probably save them lots of emotional energy and heartache down the line. In addition, by chance they have yet to see the signs, your advice may aid in identifying future "red flags"...No.


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