Did Lucifer fall before or after creation?

Answer 1

Considering the serpent (satan A.K.A. Lucifer) tempted Eve to eat from the forbidden tree, it had to have been before. Lucifer was in the form of the serpent with the intention to interfere with God's plan, which indicates that he was no longer seated in heaven.

Answer 2

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The Genesis chapter one account alludes to God's original creation of the universe, in the beginning, in verse one. A destruction of the earth then occurred sometime afterward where it became wasted in verse two. No time frame is given as to how much time might have elapsed between these two events.

Then, the account settles into a RE-creation of the earth that repairs the earth and prepares it to sustain man. There is also no reference given as to how much time may have elapsed between the destruction of the earth... and when the first day of recontruction began. Only that the reconstruction of the earth took six days.

While you will get as many opinions as there are people to expound them... it stands to reason that Lucifer would have fallen sometime between the original creation of the universe and would have been the "cause" of the earth's destruction upon his and his demonic army's impact on the earth when they were cast down to it.

When he appears in Genesis chapter three, he is already Satan, the Serpent... not Lucifer: "...that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." (Rev.12:9)

So, Lucifer would have fallen sometime between the original creation of the universe... and the reconstruction of the earth following its destruction. Sometime between verses 1 and 2 of Genesis chapter one.

Answer 3

Different people believe different things. There is no single doctrine that all believers follow.
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Those who believe that Satan, or Lucifer, fell before Creation assume that the talking snake was really Lucifer, although Genesis seems to suggest otherwise.

Muslims believe that Satan fell because he refused to bow down before Adam.

Answer 4

Job 38 when God rebukes Job, he gives a series of events that occurred in sequence. After Creation of the Universe, The Morning Stars sang together, and the Angels shouted for Joy. The two morning stars was His Son, and Lucifer, which is Latin for Light bringer. The rebellion occurred between verse 1 and 2 of Genesis 1, if you study about the light and dark, day and night in the original Hebrew, you will find that Light represents eternal life, joy, peace, that which is good, and darkness it death, misery, etc. Next you see that, since the Sun did not exist yet, 4 th day of creation, the Light was God's light, You will also see that the darkness twisted away from the light, and that the separation between light and dark was to divide asunder, to completely separate the two; with nothing between them, this is not how light and dark are in present terms of day and night. As for the word Day, this is a stumbling block for many believing Christians, yet if you look up all the uses for the word day in the Old Testament, there are five different definitions fort the word.

1. Sun set to Sun set (24 hours, but no sun yet)

2. sunrise to sunrise (24 hours, but no sun yet.)

3. sun rise to sunset (11-16 hours depending on time of year, oh and location since south pole is about 6 months- twisted humor)

4. only used one time in Genesis 1, sunset to sunrise, odd case, in which the fifth definition works better,

5. The time necessary to complete a task. The fifth definition occurs over 40 times in the Old Testament, more if you use days as an example, where two Hebrew words are used to say day, which discounts their inclusion.

These 40 locations include time spans of less than a day, two days, three days, a couple weeks, a few months, and even 3 years, yet they are all the Hebrew word Yom (Day.) So, we have not any information on how long a day is here. Should also note that Scientist are wrong too, they make many assumptions in the development of their theories of the age of the universe, They have even proven themself wrong in the attempt to prove themself right. In their follow-up after testing the age of the surface materials, they found many different ages, and excused it as being understandable due to the shifting of the crust. But their testing is based on radioactive isotopes half-life after their "big bang" theory, which would not change the length of time for the "half Life" since it occurred at one time. Furthermore, they assume "0" radiation to start, and that is a wild assumption. In the original Hebrew when God created the universe, it says He taken what was here, destroyed it, and reshaped it, setting it in the sky in order, like soldiers lined up in formation. So not only do they not know how long, they cannot determine time of these occurrences. The James W. Telescope is showing this. Also where the Son was involved in the following days, mentioned in Jn. He made the earth, this refers to putting on finishing touches, i.e. trees plants, animals, man, etc. And finished means nothing left to do or use for materials. Guess what, scientist just found out that there is nothing beyond our universe. All the materials are used up, Gee God must know something we don't :) I could go on but this answers the question asked. Sorry, just saw this, or I would have answered this years ago. Hope you get the message.