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What caste system required people to stay in the caste system in which they were born?

RAJVIR SINGH ROYAL I am Royal actually it was ruhile and the gotras on the basis of jats and rajputs are more or less same and as mann in both , tomars in boths etc. but gotras on the basis of l leters are more pronounced in both or in all upper caste as in banias tayal agawal singhal rohilaa(rajput) takurele in jats. Ofcourse the people from jats are honest and brave they are rough in fact they are warriors and they made this country advanced . they are jats may be from jattas of shiv or jats from duchh origin as most of dahiyas they are bfrom duchh. overall all indians other than south they are foreigeners in this country whether they fought during mahabharat or ramayan. they came here through various ways lator on they settled down here and based on thier living they became those who live luxurios life are bania still they know how to live luxurios those who live for banias are sudra they know how to beg and those who were in misery as in rasthan live a very hard life and started to fight with others furiously either in mahabharat or ramayana laotor on with mughals they came from outside with latest weapons of that time and stated to snatch their rajpat. bania became bania ,sudra were not so more only rajput and jats were the warriors and they fought lator on rajput came down before mughals and as jats were rough and they were not liked by mughals were beaten up and then they started to make heavty fifgts and won and even became more cruel , rajputs werre down. gujjars and meenas they are part of sudras and still they are but has learnt some thing from jats even castses they hybrid now may be from jats or from others and called chauhan as they may be from jats or rajputs, further in future all will be same as now childeren they are marring in intercaste a good sign of future earlier there was costraint of to go to and fro at farthest plaqce etc.


Marathas and Rajputs both same?

No they are not. Marathas are from Maharashtra (the state where Bombay is located) and Rajputs from Rajasthan (Jaipur located)


Who are himachali jaat?

There are about 1,50,000 Jats in Himachal Pradesh, they are mainly Hindu Jats. They are about 1% (approx) of the total population of the state. Recently Jats in Himachal Pradesh got OBC status with the efforts of Mr. Harnam Singh Gill, State president of Himachal Jat Kalyan Parishad. He can be contacted at 01892-232283 for more information. Mostly Jats are in army or migrated to others states for work. Jats are not politically active. There is only one MLA but minister in Himachal Pradesh cabinet from Jats. Jats in Himachal Pradesh are economically poorer than Jats in other states. They speak bholi- pharhi. Mainly Hindu jats are known by Chaudhary and Ghirth people. Regarding gotra generly Himachal Pradesh Jats are same gotra like in Punjab & Haryana few of them are- Kundhal, Gill, Kaundal/Kondal, Syal, Riar, Chang, Kang, Randhawa, Sandhu, Sidhu, Sahota, Bhatti, Khaire, Badal, Chawala, Kangri, Nara, Bhakal, Dhayal, Kahalon, Nanda, Rasen, Bains, Dadwal, Rilach, Bagga etc.


Who is upper caste Nair or Vishwakarma?

Nairs are a branch of Nagavanshi Kshatriyas found in the Indian state of kerala. They are similar to the Bands , Nagavanshi Rajputs and Jats. Vishwakarmas are supposed to be engaged in the construction jobs . But, they fall under the Brahmin caste. Regarding who is upper , the Brahmins or the Kshatriyas is tricky question . According to the indian constitution no one is upper or lower , all are equal before law and of course same in the eyes of God !


Is ror are rajput?

Ror are the purest rajput. When Akbar was given dolas by the rajputs of rajasthan, rors fought and did not give girls to mughals. Maharana Pratap did the same and banned marriages with rajputs who had been supplying daughters to Mughals.


Does banga caste come under obc and What is their position relative to other punjabis?

Banga in Punjab is Saini subcaste. Sainis of Punjab are not in OBC and are a forward caste. The stronghold of Banga Sainis is region in Jalandhar and Nawan Shahr districts of Punjab where they are among the leading land owning group. The caste heirarchy in Punjab varies by the region. In Hoshiarpur, Nawanshahr and Jalandhar, Sainis are ranked on top and are a very influential and affluent group . The MP of Hoshiarpur was generally always a Saini before the seat became reserved. On hills Banga clan name is also found among Dogra Rajputs as "Bangwai". Almost 100% of Saini clans are same as that of Hill Rajputs and both groups are of identical descent. The only difference is that Saini villages fell in Muslim ruled areas where Rajputs were being actively converted to Islam or asked to marry their girls with them. This led to Rajputs on the plains starting to hide their Rajput identity to avoid persecution. Due to this reason Sainis and Mahtons (aka Sikh Rajputs) gradually cut adrift from Rajputs on hills and adopted farming identity even though both tribes are of proven Rajput descent (SS Gahlot, 1989;Hugh Kennedy Trevaskis, 1928 ). Few prominent Banga Sainis in public space are Dr. Indu Banga (renowned hisotrian of Punjab) , Ajay Banga (Master Card CEO) and Manvider Banga (ex CEO of Unilever. Lt. General HS Banga (retd) , the father of Banga brothers, is also a decorated army general. Additional DIG of CRPF, Hari Ram Banga, is another prominent Banga Saini police officer decorated for gallantry. All this would tell you that Bangas are people of formidable standing, education and influence. The town Banga is also named after Banga Rajputs or Sainis. Currently, it is a Jat dominated town but the town was given Mann Jats during Akbar's era when the latter became "Darbari Jats". There a number of Banga Saini dominated villages still around this town.


Why there is hate and animosity among jats and yadavs?

The hate and animosity between Jats and Yadavs can be attributed to historical, social, and economic factors. Both groups have a history of competition for resources, land, and political power in regions where they coexist. Additionally, social stereotypes and prejudices perpetuated by historical events and societal structures have contributed to the tensions between these communities. Economic disparities and unequal access to opportunities may also fuel animosity between Jats and Yadavs. Addressing these underlying issues through dialogue, education, and equitable policies can help reduce hate and promote harmony between the two groups.


Is the same picture can be made in another language by changing language and actors?

rowdy rathore a hindi film dicteted by prabudeva and a south film veer madukari is sai ka direted by sandeep both flms have same script and dilouges this can be happen ..........yes or not


Is jatukarna gotra a rudraja brahmin?

jatukarna gotra is a saraswat brahmin gotra with castename saroch and found in hamirpur hp


When gurhar rajputs migrated from ajmer to up?

Obviously Gurhar is the branch of Gaur Rajput. because the gotra of the both is same it's (Bhardwaj) long time ago some Gaur Rajput went to U.P, mostly in Etah or Mainpuri than they had called by Gurhar Rajput. == ==


Is it true that the surname Patel contains members of all the four varnas ie Brahmin Kshtriya Vaishya and Shudra?

Yes,It is very correct to affirm that the surname Patel has been phenomenally carried by various castes across various regions of India....These castes may be either Brahmins,Kshtriyas, Vaishyas or Shudras...If u discuss the total number of Patels in the state of Gujarat( better call it the state of Patels),u will be amazed to note that besides the main Patels( or Patidars),several other caste groups of Gujarat viz. the Brahmins,Jats and Gurjars ( so-called Kshtriyas), Vaishyas ( may be Gupta, Agarwal or Marwaris) sometimes carry this great surname in and outside Gujarat....In Gujarat itself,some shudra castes adopted this surname to raise their standards in some pseudo way.....Outside Gujarat,u may find Patils using the surname Patel in Maharastra along with other 96 kuli Marathas, Khandayats and Aghrias doing the same in Orissa,Gurjars and Jats doing the same in Rajasthan and Madhya Pradesh respectively,Some Kapu Reddys honouring themselves with the surname Patel and Some Lodhis and Kurmis also are found with the same surname in the northern India....The Lingayats of Karnataka,and Jats of Haryana also sometimes use this second largest surname of India....


Are saini's original rajputs?

Oh, it's okay to be curious about your heritage, friend. Remember, our ancestry is like a beautiful painting with many colors and shades. The Saini community has a rich history and unique traditions, just like the Rajputs. Embrace the beauty of your roots and celebrate the diversity that makes you who you are.