you stop at the white line instead of the stop sign, the stop sign would be to far
Your front bumper should be on or just behind the 24" white painted stop bar on the ground. If the stop bar is missing, stop the front bumper at the location of the sign.
green... right turn yellow...left turn brown...marker and stop white....ground
Well you would simply stop before the sign, meaning that there is an imaginary stop-line that extends from any stop sign, and you must stop before you cross that line.
you must stop behind the first white line painted on the ground next to the stop sign
Yes, stops signs that have the white border are indeed optional. They are set as more of a yield sign when heavy traffic is present. Other than that those are just there to slow down rather than to make complete stop.
At the white line or the nearest line of the crosswalk. If there is no line, then at an imaginary stop-line extending out from the stop sign. You may ALSO need to stop at a point further ahead, where you can safely determine if it is safe to proceed. You obviously have to stop behind anyone ELSE who has stopped for the stop sign, then stop again when you reach the stop-line yourself.
There is only one kind of "stop" sign on French roads. As in many countries, the word "stop" is written in white letters in a red octogon. You will find a wide, white paint band on the road marking the place you have to stop. A approaching sign is the "cédez le passage" (yield / give way); the sign is a inverted white triangle with a red border.
If there is no white line, you must stop before the stop sign, not past it. In some cases, it is okay to edge slowly forward so you are able to look left and right to make sure there is no traffic. If at a 3, 4 or all-way stop sign, stop before the stop sign and if there is no other cars at the other stop signs, you may continue on. Whoever stops first at a 3, 4 or all-way stop has the right away to go first, but many people don't follow that now.
Standard sized stop signs are 30" long with a 3/4" white line around the edge. The letters of the stop sign are all 10" tall.
Regulatory signs
If there is a white line across the road you always stop behind it first. Then you follow through when its safe. However, if it's not marked, stop so that your front bumper is lined up with the stop sign, then you follow through.
In most states a legal stop, at a stock site, is 15 feet behind the stop sign. The laws regarding legal stops vary from state to state.