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Naming people "Sr." and "Jr." is a separate system from naming them "Second," "Third," "First," etc. Commonly, John Doe, Jr. can drop the "Jr." from his name after John Doe, Sr. dies, but he does not have to. For example, Sammy Davis, Jr., the famous black entertainer, continued to use "Jr." for many years after his father, Sammy Davis, Sr., died. He did, eventually, call himself simply, Sammy Davis. Naming people "I," "II," "III," etc. is a completely separate system and does not even require that III be the son of II. John Doe III could be the son of Jason Doe, and the nephew, younger cousin, or other relative of John Doe II, as long as both are recognized as being in the same family. The numbering does not change when one of them dies. John Doe IV, the son of John Doe III and the grandson of John Doe II, will always be John Doe IV, even after I, II and III have died. He may as a matter of convenience, choose to drop the number, or, if he has a son named John Doe V, he might choose to be John Doe, Sr., to his son's John Doe, Jr.

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What is the order of senior junior the third?

Senior- for the father Junior- for the son III- for the grandson


What comes after senior and junior in a family lineage?

Nothing comes after Junior when Senior and Junior are used in naming members of one family. The use of Second (II), Third (III), Fourth (IV), etc., is a completely different system. Joe, Sr., could be Joe I, Joe V, or Joe VIII or whatever number is appropriate. Junior and Senior are used only to distinguish between two living people. When Joe, Sr. dies, Joe, Jr. can become simply, Joe. Similarly if young Joe, Jr., dies, Joe, Sr. can become simply Joe.


If you name your son after his grandfather will your son become a Jr?

If you name your son after his grandfather, the grandfather is living, and no other male in your generation or your son's has an identical name, then your son can be called Junior. If the grandfather is not living, it is not appropriate to call your son "Junior," but you could call him "the second" or "the third", etc., as your family history indicates.


George s Patton jr middle name?

Patton's middle name was Smith. Though known as a junior, he was actually the third George S. Patton, after his father and grandfather. The grandfather of the WWII general, the original George Smith Patton, was killed in 1864 while serving as colonel of the 22nd Virginia Infantry Regiment in the Confederate Army.


What relation is your grandfather's brother to you?

Since your great grandfather was brother to the other person's great grandfather, the two great grandfathers had at least one parent in common. That parent is your common ancestor, the great great grandparent of both of you. People who share a grandparent are first cousins. People who share a great grandparent are second cousins. People who share a great great grandparent are third cousins. You are third cousins.

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Sir names 1st Senior second Junior third the third when is it ever the second?

I am a 2nd and not a junior. I have the same name as my Grandfather. If I were to have the same name as my father I would be a junior. If I give my son the same as myself he would be a junior and a 3rd.


What is the order of senior junior the third?

Senior- for the father Junior- for the son III- for the grandson


When there's a senior father and a junior son what will the junior son become?

If the senior father is still alive you can name the new son with a third on end. It would go like; John Henry Smith, III ( third)


What is Junior-Senior GPA?

Junior yr - 3th yr Senior yr- 4th(final) yr & Junior/Senior CGPA means the avg of third and fourth yr


Does the third change into senior when the first senior and junior die?

John Jones III can change to John Jones Sr once the first Senior and Junior die, but he does not have to. He can remain John Jones III all his life.


What happens when three men in same family have same name?

Senior,Junior. and "THE THIRD"


You are about to have a son and your son's name will be the same as yours. Will he be consider the third jr or both because you yourself are a jr already?

If you are using the term, Junior, there is no value in your son doing so too. He should be the Third. If your father is no longer living, you can stop being Junior, and become Senior. Then your son can be called Junior. But that is a matter of choice; no one sets any requirements on this. Remember, the basic purpose of both Senior/Junior and First/Second/Third, is to let two people with the same name be readily differentiated when they are being talked or written about.


What are the name stages for high school?

the 1st year is Freshman. The second year is sophomore. The third year is junior and the fourth year is senior.


If theres a senior than a junior what would the next one be called?

Generally, the correct way would be "the third" or "III" depending how you want to put it. I have known several people named after their father, grandfather or even great grandfather. Not so common these days, this was a very standard practice in many families.


What comes after senior and junior in a family lineage?

Nothing comes after Junior when Senior and Junior are used in naming members of one family. The use of Second (II), Third (III), Fourth (IV), etc., is a completely different system. Joe, Sr., could be Joe I, Joe V, or Joe VIII or whatever number is appropriate. Junior and Senior are used only to distinguish between two living people. When Joe, Sr. dies, Joe, Jr. can become simply, Joe. Similarly if young Joe, Jr., dies, Joe, Sr. can become simply Joe.


When the junior son has a child is he the first?

The system of calling people Junior and Senior is completely separate from the system of calling them First, Second, Third, etc.Since someone who is "Junior" is at least the second person to carry a particular name, his son cannot be "the First". The son of Junior is at least "The Third."


Can a junior be the valedictorian?

No. (Not unless that 'junior' is graduating early, in which case they'd actually be termed a senior, even if this is only their third year of high school... so, still, no.)