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How can something exist that has no beginning?

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2011-09-13 04:36:01

"He_who_He" id="He_who_He">He who He

There's no existence if there's no beginning its just like an

analogy of cause and effect. God claims that He is the beginning,

so He is the first cause and the effect is the creation. He is self

existence and self sustaining entity.


Its quite simply the nature of the human mind not understand the

concept of everlasting being, and eternity etc. Consider the human

life, it "starts" somewhere and "ends" somewhere. This has shaped

human thinking form the very beginning. The human brain, which uses

less than 10% and is regarded as "intelligent" cannot fully

comprehend the concept of eternal being. We may be the most

intelligent of creation, but that in itself tell's you why we

cannot understand, we are "created", God "exists".

"Islamic_Answer" id="Islamic_Answer">Islamic Answer

First I ask you, can you count (do you know how to count)?

I give an example of numbers.

If we take the number zero (0) as the middle.

under the zero (0), it goes from 0 to -1 to -2 to ENDLESS,

do you know the begin under the zero? (or you can say the last

(negatif) number under the zero)

and from zero (0) to above it goes from number 1 to 2 to


conclusion: numbers have NO BEGINNING and NO END, just

like Allah swt.

[Quran 57:3] He is the First and the Last, the Evident and the

Hidden: and He has full knowledge of all things.

yes and just like god/Allah numbers don't exist they are a man

made creation!


Actually this common question always gets it backwards. It would

make more sense to ask: "How can something exist that has a

beginning?" Things which exist are made of matter. Things can

change in form but can not come into or go out of existence - the

matter remains. You can form bricks from mud, then houses from

bricks, and in time the house will again return to mud, but the

matter involved did not have any "beginning" and can have no


Anything and everything in the universe, whether a solar system,

an electric toaster, or a Baptist Church is comprised of matter

which was re-combined to form a toaster (or whatever) from always

existing matter. If the Church burns down, the matter still exists

(and fertilizes the soil).

When you freeze water into ice, the ice was not "created" from

nothing - the matter just changed form. In the context of the

matter of which things are made, nothing which exists had a

beginning. The Universe is a sum total of all existants and all of

the matter these existants are made of. The Universe did not have a

"beginning," but like water and ice, it changes forms and

arrangements of matter over time.

But if Nature and Natural Law are too boring for you, by all

means create a God and say he did it all.

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