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yes u can win against the pastoria gym leader ur Pokemon just need to be strong so use ur vs.seeker to verse trainers and battle in the grass a lot and when ur Pokemon r really strong go back to the pastria gym and battle him and u might (probbly) win! that's wat i did coz after the 8th gym u go to the Pokemon lauge and verse eliote 4 and all of the other ppl before him and the u verse the girl who gives u the secert potion to give to the psyducks (just to let u no shes REALLY hard)

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