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What is the solution to preventing termite invasion thru a above ground liner?

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2011-09-15 10:32:52
2011-09-15 10:32:52

We live on Long Island and had the same problem. Put your flex pipe inside solid PVC pipe like a sleeve. We dug a trench around the perimeter of the pool and had an exterminator treat the PVC and the soil. It's been three years and so far so good. Check your liner. We had to replace it last year because termites made it look like a sieve. They come up through the bottom. Good luck!

AnswerCan someone explain how a termite would be interested in eating vinyl liners or PVD piping? I live near West Point NY. We had termites in a tree next to our pool, built in 1982. We just replaced the liner this weekend - and all the lines are fine. I've never heard of termite damage to a vinyl pool or plumbing. AnswerDon't use flex pipe under ground in the first place. It is well known that termites can and will eat it like taffee. Additionally, flex pipe has been known to soften, or "melt," in the first 3 to 4 feet of pipe underneath the skimmer. This occurs when the pool owner uses the skimmer as the main source of chlorine induction (tablets in the skimmer basket) for the swimming pool. When this softening in the pipe occurs, the suction power of the pump will cause the pipe to collapse upon itself... creating an obstruction in the line. This could lead to the pump burning out due to the loss of prime (pump runs dry). So, to make a long answer even longer, don't use flex pipe under ground if you can help it. Use the industry standard of schedule 40 PVC "hardpipe." AnswerTermites eat wood not vinyl.. AnswerMost pools have the two ingredients termites need to survive and will become the main target of any termite colony if given the chance. This could happen anywhere a pool is installed but it seems to happen more in arid regions or when any one region is experiencing a drought. During dry times termites get desperate for moisture and will target any body or source of water.

There are many types of pools being built these days. Pools made of cement, gunite and other solid materials similar to rock are generally not going to have problems with termites.Any type which uses a liner is susceptible to termite damage; pools which use both wood and liners have the two ingredients termites spend their lives targeting. In ground pools typically have some wood beams installed which are laid in the ground. Liners are set over these foundations and though the wood used will many times be pressure treated or impregnated with some type of protective chemical, such treatments will break down over time. This breakdown, combined with the moisture wood will typically absorb from the ground, is the basis of a good termite food recipe. In ground pools which don't utilize wood but instead have chosen all manmade supplies are at risk as well. Termites will be drawn to these pools because of their water or termites will find them by mistake. Since termites almost always have some part of their colony out on a "seek and find" mission for both food and water, in ground pools can't hide even if they are made with all synthetic material. Their thin liners are not enough to hide the water which lies inside. Termites will detect the water and target any weak part of a pools design. As our on line article about termite biology describes, most any active termite colony will have thousands of termites out and about seeking moisture and new food supplies - even when the colony already has ample supplies. This is one of their natural defenses and allows them to have "priority" supplies so that when main targets are lost, lower priority water and wood are at hand and can be farmed. This constant search will inevitably bring some termites to find most any in ground pool at some point during the pools existence. Termites ability to detect water - even through thick pool liners - will initiate an interest. If they desire or need the water bad enough, they will chew their way through causing leaks. Slow at first, water loss will almost be non-detectable. However, most termite harvesting of water will tend to increase and as more and more access holes are created, water loss will be fast and noticeable. Soon, water loss will so bad the liner will have to be replaced. Many people believe termites "ate" their liner when in fact the termites really "ate through" the liner (at this point we don't think termites are able to digest and convert plastic to food!).

Now, it seems to me, that why would you go to all the trouble to put the flex pipe inside regular PVC pipe or any other type of pipe. When you could just as well use schedule 40 or even schedule 80 PVC pipe by itself installed in the trenches. And you never install flex pipe underground for pools. k

I couldn't figure out why my above ground pool was losing water. I hired a professional "leak buster" outfit to help me find the source. It turned out there wasn't one hole in my liner, there were thousands of tiny holes cause by moisture seeking subterranean termites! I tried treating the issue myself with some Home Depot bait stakes. That liner lasted 1 season before the pool started losing water again. I somehow found this site and started to research this Termidor stuff. I bought a jug and a pump sprayer. Since the lining needed replaced (again) I got all set up. When the old lining was removed, I soaked the sand base with my sprayer filled with the Termidor solution. I replaced the liner. Then, I sprayed the outside base of the pool and let the solution roll down the sides through the gravel. Since I had about 12 bait stake holes, I pumped them full of the diluted solution as well. I used the entire bottle on my pool. It's been two full seasons since I treated with Termidor and needless to say, I am thrilled. Not even a hint of termites! If I were to ever install a pool again, I would treat with Termidor as a preventative measure. I had no idea termites hunted for water in swimming pools. I highly recommend Termidor!

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An individual can save a lot of time, energy and money by preventing termites from causing damage compared to the time energy and money it would take to treat the termites and to fix the damage. Although it is best to hire a professional termite exterminator, steps can be taken by the individual to prevent termites from causing damage for example: eliminating any damp areas around the house. Clear any Gutters and drain spouts to prevent water build up. Outside it is best that the individual remove any wood that may be laying on the ground, as well as avoid stacking firewood against the house. If the house has a deck, patio or porch it is best that it has a space of 6 inches above the ground.


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