Technically, the Scraps have a greater number. However, even with them being bigger, they still can't get rid of the Nortenos. In Northern Cali, or where ever the Norteno Homeboys are, you'll find the ones putting it down for the North. You will hear the Scraps saying their taking over, but if they are, why are the Nortenos still here, still taking Scraps out? Even if they are not in L.A, it doesn't make a difference the Nortenos will always be here as long as the Scraps are here.
The Nortenos are a mostly Mexican-American gang started in Nortern California. All Nortenos are under the bigger Nuestra Familia......The Nortenos biggest rivals are a gang under the Mexican Mafia called the Surenos & other Norteno rivals are the Crips gang....
The Northsiders and the southsiders (Nortenos and surenos...
Surenos are the true chapetes NOT Nortenos
Surenos are bigger than Nortenos.Nortenos are only in Northern California while the Sureno sets are all over California and the U.S.There is Nortenos in some states but they are not in big numbers like the Surenos and I know because im an officer.
California Surenos are bigger with out no doubt organized crime is their major.Ask the people in Salinas California they will tell you about the big MPL13,VGS,HBN,LPT AND CST Gangs.
Both Surenos & Nortenos have been around since the 1960's.
Each number stand for a letter in the alphabet for surenos the number is 13 stands for the letter M which stands for the MEXICAN MAFIA... the number 14 for nortenos stands for the letter N witch stands for NUESTRA FAMILIA....
The guy that first answered is completely wrong. Norteños are NOT under the blood alliance at all, Bloods program and operate differently. whereas the Norteños are foot soldiers and program under the NF, the Nuestra Familia. Norteños wear red because their rivals the Sureños from LA wear blue. And the reason why Norteños call Sureños “ Skraps” ( its Skraps, not Scraps. for Sureño Killer ) is because after internal fighting within La Eme, mainly due to paying taxes on the street and in prison and for being discriminated for being farm workers. Hispanics from Northern California, from Pretty much everywhere above Bakersfield split from La Eme and formed their own organization, naming it Nuestra Familia. Norteños dominated northern California, being the largest organization with a highly strong presence and influence in the Central Valley, The Bay Area, Monterrey County, and Sacramento. however, Sureños were still present in northern California. Their numbers are very small, and despite a majority of them being born and raised from the north, they still choose to represent the south. Mainly due to them being rejected by the norteños when trying to join, So they run off and join a local “gang” that reps the sureños, when in reality they are just tweakers that smoke meth all day and dress like they still in the 90’s. Those types of individuals are called ”Skraps” Leftovers of La Eme, that didnt conform with the transformation of Northern Califronia under the Norteño banner. I was personally involved in the streets and served time for my actions. I have the credentials to speak the truth on this matter. The streets is a waste of time and everybody dies or gets locked up in prison for something that was stupid and in the heat of the moment or trying to impress people that dont care about them. And 9 out of 10 times, their ”homies” always snitch on them when sh*t hits the fan. Seen it happen every single time. Stay out the streets and take care of yourself and your family.
Surenos are a powerful gang but it's really no such thing as ''the most powerful gang'' cause it's so many powerful one's.... Bloods(Includes Pirus & Nortenos) Crips(Includes Hoover Criminals) Mexican Mafia(Includes gangs like Surenos, Ms-13 & Eighteen St.)
Both Surenos and Nortenos carry themselves with pride. They both represent Latino Pride.
Norteous is cutier
The Surenos are enemies with Nortenos, Bloods, Crips, Tiny Raskals Gang & in some states they're rivals with Folk Nation & People Nation gangs such as the Almighty Latin King & Queen Nation(People Nation gang) and the Gangster Disciples Nation(Folk Nation gang)....