How can science refute God without using evolution as a reason?

Answer 1

This is a great question. Science may attempt to refute God in a number of ways without using the Theory of Evolution as a basis.

I will now divide my response into three main categories:

- arguments against God using chronology

- arguments against God using morality

- arguments against God based on the idea that the God of the Old Testament contradicts Jesus in the New Testament

1. One would likely attempt to use chronology (that is, the study of time) as a refutation against God. This argument is mostly based on the idea that one can add up the years and times described in scripture and compare them to scientific analysis of the Earth.

2. There is also another argument that is quite popular, which is that the God who defines the scriptures is morally either:

A: contradictory

or

B: inept

This is based largely on the idea that the modern conception of morality demonstrates God to be morally inferior to our societal conceptions of right and wrong, however there is, to make a great understatement, a vast wealth of knowledge that may make this argument unstable.

3. It may be temporarily feasible to argue that the "God" of the Old Testament is incoherent as compared with the "Jesus" of the New Testament. This argument can be enormously successful based on peoples' common knowledge of the Old and New Testaments, however, it is unfortunately quite refutable.

I can also mention arguments against God based upon historical inaccuracies, however the points of interest that correspond to this school of though will require too much text to adequately fit in this response.

There is also, however, a comment worth making in regard to this matter:

often, science is portrayed as an "opponent" to God.

It seems that, if this is true, it is not only illogical but also a corruption of science as a discipline, and here is why I believe this to be true:

Science is primarily tasked with learning based on observation.

While science, as a discipline, may observe problems with God, its duty is to take the given knowledge of God as evidence, and then make hypotheses about God based upon this.

Quite unfortunately, this is often not the appropriate process undertaken, and there are few hypotheses about God found in the scientific community; the subject has largely been ignored.

There is also something quite significant to be said on the matter of science being an observation based upon our understanding of Physics and God being separate from said understanding, but that is too much to discuss at the present juncture.

I hope this answer has been satisfactory. There is actually another argument against God which I have never seen proposed or mentioned, and yet it, like the others, has many points of refutation.

If you would like to know about that argument or receive clarification on the other arguments, please feel free to message me any time and I will be happy to respond.

Answer 2

It cannot; and nor can Evolution, which is why there are a significant number of scientists, in both the Evolutionist camp and the Creationists, who believe in God. See also:

Is there evidence for Creation?

Can you show that God exists?

Answer 3

For something to be scientific, it must be repeatable and/or observable. Under this definition, faith in either God or evolution would be outside of the realm of science. Faith is based on the unseen, where-as true science is based on the known. You cannot refute something unseen that someone believes exists. You can simply use your power of reason to observe what you know, and base your faith on that observation. Evolution is not observable nor has it been repeatable in any lab experiments, so it too, is a matter of faith.

Science has not been able to answer the questions of: Where did we come from? How did we get here? What are we here for? What happens when we die? What does the future have in store for us?

Those are all questions that can only be answered by faith. No answers from science have been able to refute the faith of people, because science simply does not know the answer to them.

Answer 4

Science does not set out to refute or disprove God. The work of science is simply to learn about the natural world, leaving the supernatural to religion.

Even evolution can not be used to refute God. Evolution can be shown to have occurred, but a theist could counter this by saying that God guided evolution. Science could demonstrate that the order of creation in Genesis chapter 1 is absurd, but a theist could say that even if the details of the account are wrong, God still exists.

Belief in God has always been a matter of faith in what can not be observed, and science does not dispute faith in the unknowable.

Answer 5

As far as I know, so far it hasn't been able to prove that God exists, nor that He does not exist.