Ammunition

Try Old Western Scrounger at 1-304-262-9870. The ammunition itself was discontinued in 1942 and is more commonly called the 25 Steven. It was also known as the 25-10 because it was a 25 caliber 67 grain bullet loaded with 10 grains of blackpowder. It was soon obsoleted with the introduction of the 22 magnum which was cheaper and more powerful. If Scrounger can't help then I guess your only option would be to find a antique ammunition dealer maybe at a gun show. Hope this helps....Steve

You will need to experiment with as many different brands and bullet weights as you can. What is accurate in one may not be in another.

i was told not much might beable to get 35.00 for it Was a brass shell with shot, not a bullet. It was only about 2" long, so a .410 shell should not be used in the gun (even though it will fit and fire). Now, the bad news. These guns are now regulated in the same way as a fully automatic machine gun, although the transfer fee is much lower. If you do not have the registration papers from the BATF, possession of this gun can result in a fine (up to $250,000) and a long stretch in a federal facility. You may wish to consult with an attorney who has had experience dealing with the Feds.

Those were bolt-action shotguns produced by Noble. Value would be under $100. sales@countrygunsmith.net

No. Only black powder shells can be used, and even than, it may not be safe to shoot. I load my own with 2 drams of 2f real black powder and 7/8 oz of shot. Have a gunsmith take a look at the gun first.

Could be a multitude of things, from pits in the chamber to problems with the ejector mechanism. Have it checked by a gunsmith.

The caliber is .44-40 Winchester. The bores vary from around .427-.429", but usually towards the .427" size. Your serial number indicates a date of 1897 mfg. Values of antique firearms are based on condition, and any special features, or changes. I cann not estimate your gun's value without a set of good pictures or a first hand exam. marlinguy@juno.com

The 44 shot is the American fore runner of the 410. The Stevens uses a 44-40 shell loaded with bird shot. The most famous gun to use this round was the Marble Game Getter, a pistol with folding stock, a 22 long rifle rimfire upper barrel and a 44 lower barrel. Marble marketed the gun (1908) by stating that you could fire the 44GG or 44XL in the lower barrel. The 44GG is a 44-40 loaded with a round ball, the 44XL is the 44-40 loaded with about 1/3 oz of bird shot. The 410 was already in use in England at this time. Greener mentions the 410 in 1879. By about 1915 it began to make an appearance in the US as a 2" brass load. By the late 1920's the 410 had dominance and the 44 shot was not being chambered in any new guns, though it was continued in production until the late 1940's or early 1950's by some ammunition companies.

Please be aware that modern 44-40 ammunition shoult NOT be fired in vintage firearms marked 44 shot, 44GG or 44XL.

If .44-40 rifle ammo can not be used in the 44 SHOT J. Stevens Arms and Tool single shot lever action with hammer. Then what kind of ammo sold can be used in it? Even though it is a smooth bore can a single projectile be fired out of it (similar to a 12 ga. slug shot out of a non rifled barrel)? Can the pest control rim fire ammo made in .44 cal be used( this is rim fire ammo though for a center fire gun, does that even work)?

Many reasons. Construction methods and materials have changed over the years, so the metal used in the older guns may not be able to handle the pressure of modern ammunition. Also, a gun is nothing more than a machine and machines wear out over time and use. Headspace may be excessive, hinge pins and barrel latches may be worn, so on and so forth. It is only prudent to have any older firearm checked for safety before shooting. Unless, of course, you prefer writing by sticking the pen in your mouth. sales@countrygunsmith.net In addition to the differences in black powder, early smokeless 'nitro', and modern smokeless powder, the length of the shells has increased. In the early 20th century most shotguns were chambered for shells 2 9/16 inches or 60 mm long. It is still possible to purchase these in Europe, but no US companies make them today. By the middle of the century, the standard was 2 3/4 inches and today you will find only 3 inch shells in many stores. The longer shells will go into most shotguns designed for shorter ones but will not be able to fully open when fired. This can cause the pressure to reach as much as twice the intended maximum.

You have to work up the most accurate load for your particular rifle. Each rifle will respond differently to changes in bullets, powder charge, seating depth, etc. What is an accurate load in one rifle may shoot poorly in another and vice versa.

We carry new replacement magazines for that shotgun.

It might be due to a lack of funding for quality, and lack of ability in some cases, for special effects. The Man of Steel was concerned for the by-standers who might get shot if the gun mis-fired when it bounced off of him. IT is easy for an actor to dodge a prentend bullet than it is to dodge a real hunk of iron.

The problem has always been how to get the cartridge to load better, load faster, shoot flatter, have more energy, conserve space, conserve weight, or be more reliable. It is very rare to achieve more than a few of these at once. So far, the big advancements in cartridges have been a self contained cartridge, smokeless powder, and necked cartridges. So what of the future?

There has been continuous incremental improvement in conventional ammunition. Better propellant formulations and advances in gun metallurgy have allowed for the creation of cartriges operating at high pressures and producing high velocities from a smaller case. This is likely to continue.

For a while there was a trend to decrease the caliber in order to make shooting more comfortable and to allow more ammunition to be carried. This results in smaller and lighter bullets, which in turn decreases the actual performance of the bullet in the target and the effective range.

Recent experiences in various conflicts highlighted these shortcomings. This led to the development of new cartridges such as the 6.5 mm Grendel. It uses a slightly larger case than the 5.56 but retains an overall length that allows it to be fired out of AR15 platforms without completely redesigning the gun. The bullets fired are of the medium range weights. They have a very high ballistic coefficient so they retain more speed down range. This allows them to be highly adaptable and very effective up close and past the range of the 5.56 without a new gun, high recoil, etc. Other examples of this design philosophy are the 6.5 SPC and the 6.5 Creedmoor.

Caseless ammunition has been experimented with for many, many years. The two best known examples that made it closest to mass production was the Heckler & Koch G11 rifle using the 4.73x33 mm ammunition and the MetalStorm system.

The G11 used bullets encased in bricks of propellant that fed from a magazine. G11 suffered from poor reliability and problems with premature ignition of rounds in a hot chamber. This is caused by excess heat which in a traditional firearm is carried out of the gun by the ejected casing. There is research being done on this.

MetalStorm consists of a number of projectiles and charges in a barrel one behind the other. They are fired in sequence using electricity. MetalStorm is reloaded by replacing barrels. Using setups with multiple barrels it that has achieved a theoretical maximum rate of fire of over 1,000,000 rounds per minute. In a way it is a fancy electronic muzzleloader. It is very reliable, but cumbersome and expensive.

An interesting experiment in ammunition was the Gyrojet that was produced for a short time in the 1960's and 70's. It basically fired small rockets as bullets. Highly inaccurate and expensive and also with reliability issues it never became popular.

There is some development going on dealing with smart ammunition. This would include steerable bullets that could correct for wind or target motion and programmable explosive projectiles. The idea is to be able to shoot over walls and around corners. Nothing has been put into practical use. When it does get made it will be expensive.

Other possibilities for future development include use of liquid propellants, either encased in cartridges or injected from separate compartment and development of projectile materials other than lead. For now, aside from limited use of solid copper bullets for hunting there is nothing in the real world. Copper is unlikely to replace lead due to higher cost.

not any easy answer. older guns can't use steel shot, it'll erode the barrel.however, good rule of thumb, most modern manufacturers don't recommend steel shot in full chokes. mod. or imp. cy. it's o.k. barrel erosion or barrel bulging is dangerous and will ruin you gun

This is sort of an "If you have to ask, you can't do it" situation. A gunsmith will have tools for removing/replacing pins, and screwdrivers made for specific sizes/types of screws, and knows what to hold as things come apart so little springs-n-things don't fly across the room and get lost. Check the yellow pages for one near you.

All magazines or clips have a "lip" at the top that retains the next round up in the magazine until the closing bolt of the weapon picks it up and shoves it into the chamber. If a particular magazine spits out more than one round at a time, it probably has a bent or damaged lip. Carefully bending the lip back into place or getting a new magazine should fix the problem. I think what you are refering to is a "tube magazine" which would be correct for the 87p.The "clip" the inquirer was talking about is a small C or U shaped spring which slips in place at the end of the tube itself just where it meets with the lifter or carrier mechanism.This spring grabs the round which is pushed to the front of the tube by spring pressure and holds it when the round ahead of it is pushed free of the tube and into the carrier mechanism and onto the lifter itself when the bolt is fully to the rear the lifter spring pushes the lifter up with the cartridge into alignment with the chamber.without the spring ,or, if it is worn out the cartrige in the tube would have its nose pushed into the path of the lifter and would jam the rifle.The spring is available from Numrich Arms or Jack First or in parts lots on E-Bay.Shootrj2003

i shot a bird shot 22 in a wmr to day, n it split the side of the cace , 2 diff times n it would not eject the case It's always a good idea to use ONLY ammunition that is made for the gun in question. A 22 magnum chamber is made to fit a 22 magnum, obviously. The magnum is significantly larger than a long rifle cartridge. When you fire a long rifle in a magnum chamber, the case is unsupported by the chamber, because the chamber is too large for it. So, the case is probably going to split or stretch, causing the ejection problems mentioned. If you do this with a high-powered gun, you run a very real risk of damage to the gun, or to yourself. NEVER use ammunition in a gun that the gun was not built to handle. To do so is just begging to be listed with all the other morons at www.darwinawards.com . No offense, but it's true. A good example would be a careless person who got 20 gauge shotgun shells mixed up in his hunting vest with 12 gauge shells. The 20 gauge shell, if loaded into a 12 gauge, can slide right up into the barrel. If he then loads a 12 gauge shell and fires it, he had better have good medical insurance. Life insurance would be good too. If you aren't sure what ammo a gun should use, find out. Ask a gunsmith, or read a book. It's easier than trying to clone a new face or hand for yourself. Answer .22WMR is NOT MEANT FOR .22LR/S/L AMMO!!!! They absolutely DO NOT interchange in the same weapon. The exception is the Cowboy-type pistols where you get TWO separate cylinders...one handles .22S/L/LR, the other handles .22WMR. It's NOT like a .357 where you can also shoot .38spl rounds...

Most any good sporting goods store. The modern designation is .32 Winchester Special.

The Stevens 59A is a shotgun, not a rifle. It fires .410 ammo, both 2 1/2 and 3 inch shells.

Terni is the location of an Italian government arms manufacturer. You probably have some type of Mannlicher. Since various models were made from 1891 through the second world war and beyond, it could take several different cartridges. If you really want to know, find every thing written on the gun, including descriptions of any symbols like the crown I suspect is over RE Terni. Then go to www.antiqueguns.com and post a COMPLETE description in the WWI-WWII section. If you want the experts there to suggest a value, be sure to include the condition of the gun either using the NRA standard grades or as a percentage of original finish. However, I doubt if any old Italian bolt action military rifle would be worth more than $150 unless it was in like-new condition. For a collector who is a right-wing conspiracy buff, if the rifle is a certain type with certain markings, it might have incidental value. The rifle found on the floor at the Texas Book Depository after John Kennedy was shot was a Terni Rocca rifle- 6.5 cal, serial number c2766, with crown markings. It is referred to as a Mannlicher. It is a clip fed bolt action military rifle circa late '20's. I've dry fired one of those three times in 7 seconds. The Kennedy/Connally bullets were fired in 8.3 seconds. This is what gives it added value- assassination debates and exhibitions.

Your question is a real can or worms as there are over 100 different factory loads available on the market. The most popular are differant loads for 150 and 180 grain bullets. All we can do here is generalize and your question is not spacific enough to answer. If you are sighted in at 200 yds using "Winchester Power Point Plus" 150 gr. bullets (the balistics change from brand to brand)than you would be 1.5 inches high at 100 yds. At 1000 yds you would have to hold 537.8 inches high to hit your target. It isn't very realistic for the average shooter to try and make shots like this. A 180 gr Winchester power point plus is 1.9 inches high at 100 yds and 378.7 low at 1000 yds.

Who is the maker on the box?(Remington,Federal,CCI,Fiocchi) I dont know what you mean by stainless lead bullets. Is there any markings on the box that say what kind of ammo you have? Need more info to answer.