What MODEL of rifle? There were several sold under the Revelation brand. Different makers, different values.
About $100, more or less. Well made, durable, reliable guns, but not a lot of collector interest.
A 20 guage double in useable condition should be worth $150-$250. +++ I just gave $300 for a pretty nice 12ga double "Long Range Gun" - not "new in box", just enough wear and tear to add character. See also article in "Guns and Ammo" Dec 2004 issue. +++
That rifle was manufactured by Savage/Stevens. We carry parts. firstname.lastname@example.org
My name is Mike About a year ago i came across a pump 20ga. revelation shotgun. In need of repair i took it to the local gunshop. Ask if it was worth the repair? Gunsmith (of 40yrs.) said it was worth about 175.00 and it would cost 109.00 to repair. That was 2mos. ago. Suppose to get the gun 1-17-06 ? So iguess you csn take it from there. Good luck Mike
I have one of the Western Field 38 and after some searching on the internet I found a sight with OLD mossberg catalogs on it. http://home.epix.net/~damguy/catalog.htm it looks like mine is a Mossberg Model 35 with No.3 Peep Sight and and the mulit post ramp sight. I think the No.3 peep was a lower cost option than the micro-click. Mossberg did in fact make that rifle for Montgomery Wards.
The model 152 was made from 1948-57, with the earliest rifles having a wooden fold down forearm, and later ones having a back plastic fold down. I have 3 of these cute little rifles- but they have all been claimed by my grandkids as their rifles. There is a modest collector interest in these, and some parts are available for them. The rear peep sight is frequently missing, and is pricy to replace. Not a target rifle, but excellent plinker or lightweight small game hunting rifle. 1948-1957 1948-1957
Western Arms shotguns Ithaca marked guns with the Western Arms trade name for Montgomery Ward and/or Sears Roebuck. Ithaca Gun Co. can be contacted via email at: email@example.com Office is located at: Ithaca Gun Company, LLC 901 Route 34B King Ferry, NY 13081 Phone: 315.364.7171 Fax: 315.364.5134/( THIS ANSWER IS TOTALLY INCORRECT. WESTERN FIELD WERE MONTGOMERY WARD GUNS PRODUCED BY STEVENS. WESTERN ARMS IS THE ECONOMY GRADE OF ITHACA PRODUCED 1929 TO 1941.)
Everything depends on condition. I picked up a UUR 279 for $10.00. Normal price on Japanese vintage in very good condition is anywhere from about $25.00 to $50.00. I had to do a lot of cleaning and oiling on mine to make it to that range.
You must have a Western Field Model 72C lever action rifle, which is a Mossberg 472C. Try gunpartscorp.com or eBay for an owner's manual. A repair manual is going to be tough as the gun is not well known.
Western Arms Company was a division of Ithaca that made inexpensive shotguns that appear identical to the Ithaca made Lefever Nitro Special from 1929 to 1946. Yours was made in 1932. Only 400 guns Western Arms Long Range Guns were produced that year, the worst of the Depression.
Single trigger versions range fro $150 to $400 in useable to excellent condition.
That may be a serial number, which MIGHT help establish a date of manufacture IF we knew the exact manufacturer and model. It was most likely made sometime between 1930 and the mid 1960's and I would suspect it is a Savage/Stevens product. I'm assuming that it is a field grade hammerless boxlock, and if this is right, its value will be determined by its condition. Top dollar would be around $300 in like-new condition, $200 +/- in "average used", or less than $50 for a broken/rusted/worn-out parts gun.
i need price and value on a 20ga Montgomery ward and company western field browning modle30
Anonymous - I think I've located the correct cross-reference for this. If it is a slide-action shotgun, it should be a re-branded Savage/Stevens 520 worth $150 in excellent (like new) condition or $25 if just a parts gun.
To find the approximate age, you need to find the model number, cross reference it to the manufacturer's model, and find when that model was introduced and discontinued. There were several manufacturers who produced rifles for Montgomery Ward's store brand Western Field. Heym, FN, Savage, Marlin, and Mossberg produced rifles. One of the most common center-fire rifle manufacturers was Mossberg, particularly the models 800 and 810, which cross-reference to models 767 and 732 respectively. All models of center-fire rifles under the Western Field brand, assuming good condition, begin in value from $200 and go up from there. The Mossberg 800 and 810 based center fire rifles (308, 243, 30-06, 7mm Mag, etc) value between $250 and $400 each, depending on finish and quality of stock (birch or walnut). Heym and FN based Western Field rifles can go upwards to $500 because of their classic Mauser actions. Mossberg-made lever actions go for $200-$300 and Marlin-based lever actions go for approximately the same price as Marlin-branded rifles of the same era.
At one time, store-branded rifles were considered less valuable because they were more basic and were not marked with the original manufacturer (such as Winchester or Remington). However, as time has progressed, their value has increased as shooters realized that the plane-jane rifles of the 1950's-70's still had a deep, polished blue, good iron sights, hinged floor-plates, and walnut stocks - all features of far more expensive rifles these days. The low-end rifles of the 1960's are equivalent to the mid-range rifles today - making these store brand rifles greater values.
Most modern guns are graded by percentage of original condition- 100%= Bluing is intact and not mottled on both the barrel and receiver, wood of the stock and forend is not scratched or nicked and the finish is uniform and original. Other than factory test firing, the gun was never fired. Generally, new in the box (NIB), if the weapon came in one. 98%= Usually applies to double action revolvers where there is a slight but evident 'drag' line on the cylinder from the gun being dry fired (the hammer cocked, allowing the cylinder to be rotated repeatedly) even though it was never loaded and fired. This can be transfered to auto loading rifles if the auto bolt slides show wear (easily tested with a q-tip: If you find a lot of black oil, the bolt has been exercised in excess)even if it was never fired. 95%= The gun has been fired, but all the original bluing/ finish is intact, some 'greying' (where the bluing has experienced slight wear like at the barrel tip from being inserted or withdrawn from a zip up gun soft case) is acceptable. The stock and forend, other than a few minor scratches, as well as the finish on them are intact. The mechanisms (trigger, bolt, ect) are tight and true. 90%= Bluing on the receiver shows minor wear, the stock forend shows some finish wear with some nicks/scratches. The mechanisms (trigger, bolt, ect) are tight and true. 80%= Bluing on the underside of the receiver shows lots of wear, 60%, even though the barrel may grade at 95%; numerous nicks and scratches in both the receiver as well as stock/ forend are the indicators that show that this grade of gun has been used in the feild for a number of seasons. I have a 742 (A) made between 1975 and 1978 that was upgraded at the factory to a BDL, minus cheek clearance so it's a bit of a one off. It is a 100% grade though, unfired, just like it came out of the box. Currently, it's estimated value is between $500 and $600. If you have a bicentennial model (1976) even fired, it's worth $1k + even if it's @ 95% grade. with boxes, documentation ect.
You should keep in mind that the 742 was superseded by the 7400 around 1980.
I keep mentioning paperwork and original containers. Without these, your unfired gun is reduced to the unfired value of $500-to $600. Provenance is valued. Dealers are asking $500 for a used 742A in 95% grade, or condition. Doesn't mean that's what they're getting. Go to gunbroker.com and do a search- You'll find 742s in a price range from $100 (less than 80% grade) to $350 (95% condition with a cheap scope mounted). Remember, once the guns's out of the factory and has been fired, the best condition it will ever see is 95%, unless it's older than 100 years old, then everything changes. 742s are just getting old enough to be considered collectible. Also keep in mind that if you have the original carton/ container the gun came with in good to excellent condition most collectors will pay a premium above and beyond the estimated value of the gun itself, since it is considered part of what makes the gun 'collectible' in the first place. This also applies to warranty cards, manuals ect. Most 742 owners probably don't know that their guns were shipped by Remington in a shipping carton to their respective dealers, such as kmart, SS Kresges and other retailers. Most of these retailers upon receiving a shipment of 742s at the point of sale would discard the shipping carton, since they usually had a gun rack to hold the gun on display. Finally, what model? Remington made a 742(A), 742ADL (fine checkering w/sling swivels)742BDL (deluxe), 742 carbine, 3 grades of peerless and premier ($1800+ value now) and even a Canadian centennial model (still $350 like the 742(A)). Since the grand majority of 742s made were of the (A) variety, at 95% condition, without scope, $300; @ 90%, around $275. Hope this answers your question. -Ric
This should be a Mossberg 80 marked for Montgomery Ward. If your local gunsmith can't get a magazine, check http://www.e-gunparts.com
That's a Marlin 50 with a Montgomery Ward name. Check with your local gunsmiths or contact http://www.e-gunparts.com
You will have to know the model name or number to cross-reference to a manufacturers model. Many Western Field (Montgomery Ward) shotguns were made by Mossberg, but many were also by Stevens/Savage, Hi Standard, and several others.
My son has a Westernfield M865A, which was made by Mossberg, but they also sold it as a Mossberg rifle as the Model 402 or you will here it called the Palomino. My son loves it, got it for $60 at a garage sale.
Single shot shotguns sell new for $89.99. Used ones will retail for $45-$70 depending on condition. A dealer will probably offer $25 - $35. I bought my CBC single barrel in South Africa for approx 81,6 dollars in 1985. Lovely firearm and gave me many hours of pleasure. Currently with the new gun laws over here it is worthless. I cannot renew my license and will end up handing it over to the local police to be destroyed *You CAN renew your license as the new Firearms Confiscation Act is immoral and unconstitutional. You existing license is valid until 2009 at which time we are sure that the law (like the Canadian law it copied) will be scrapped. Try the SAFF for any further information. Bodie
Did the description fit your Wards gun? If so, try to find a copy of Standard Catalog of Firearms and compare it to the pictures. Both Wards and Sears contracted with several manufacturers for guns marked with their various trade names. There are a lot of Winchesters in the Sears cross-reference list. I've never seen a good list for Wards, Penneys, or Speigel, but I'm sure there will be a few Winnies there too.forwhat is the age of a westernfiWestern Field 22's were the house names of the firearm, where the manufacture name may vary. For example the wards westernfield 22 model 36 B is crossreferenced to the manufactures numbers for Mossberg model 10 and 25A,or the Savage 521. A good website to check out is htpp://www.gun-data.com. Good hunting. P.S.The Westernfield model 36 B was produced from 1936 to 1938.
It is worth $1,000,000,000.I would disregard the prior answer.Some on this site have nothing better to do than make jokes at others expense!I have seen the westernfield .22 cal rifles selling for between 60-100 dollars depending on the overall condition of the gun in question.There is not much demand for these older montgomery wards guns.
10- 100 USD or so
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