You're not supposed to get the red orb after the magma emblem. If catching Groudon and Kyogre is what you're trying to do, then you have to defeat the elite four ( Pokemon league ) , and then go to the weather institute near fortree city, and talk to a guy there. He'll tell you where they are so you can catch them.
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YOU TRADE IT WITH MAXIE THE TEAM MAGMA LEADER
it is in the jagged pass in the rock face three levels from the end but you need the magma emblem to get in though to get the magma emblem you go to mt. pyre go to the top and team aqua should be there beat them they will take the red orb and you talk to the lady and she gives you the magma emblem
there in your face i mean in front of the door north
idk but in emerald go to lavaridge town and go down the ledges that take you to lavaridge and there will be an earthquake and a secret entrance to magma hideout will open actually the orb has nothing to do with that, you dont even obtain it, it is stolen by team magma and returned after you beat the story line... the earthquake and the door to the magma hideout is triggered once you walk by it with the 'magma emblem' obtained from the old lady at mount pyre after team magma steals thhe red orb
in its hideout
Go to the summit of Mt Pyre and defeat team Magma. The couple at the top will entrust you with the red orb.
The blue orb is an orb used by team magma to control Groudon telepathically. The red orb does the same but it is used by team Aqua to control Kyogre.
team magmas base at mt.pyre go down with the magma emblem and an earthquake will start when it finishes a gap will apear go inside and youre there
After getting the earth badge go to mr. Pokemon and he will give you a red orb if you talk to him. what you do with it later is unknown to me.
You will never have both the red orb and the blue orb. Once you catch/kill Groudon you can probably return the orb back at mt. Pyre to the old couple. Team Magma's leader will be there with the other orb. If it doesnt work just go back after you beat the Elite 4. There is no reward in returning the orb to the geezars but you'll have more inventory space! yay
go to the cave of origin after you beat the magma hideout.you have to have a red orb to do so
The red orb is given to you after team magma/aqua stole the blue orb the stories continues you should then be able to have the chance to catch him. just follow the story line.