Have you had the choke measured to insure that it is still FULL. If it is, and the s/n on the barrel matches the s/n on the frame. Then the gun, obviously, is original. (I hope the above statement did not insult your intellegents, but I felt I had to point it out)
At least in the early years Winchester would supply, on special order, any std. barrel length with any std. choke. In later years Winchester would be less accommodating. Generally speaking full chokes, on other than special order guns, were supplied only on barrel length of 28" and longer.
A significant percentage of Winchesters production records where destroyed in a fire some years back making it virtually impossible to to retrive information on many specific guns, yours was probably included.
I guess about all we can say is that if the barrel is now a cylinder bore and the the s/n's match then the barrel has been cut and there is probably no way of determining its original length. If the barrel marking say FULL and it is any thing but cyl. bore or full then it probably has not been cut and just the choke modified. I hope someone else submits an answer to this question because it is an interesting one.
Just the barrel?
The original factory barrel will have the name Winchester and the chambering of the gun stamped into it.The color is another tell, the color on the chamber should match the barrel exactly.Look at the joint between the barrel and the chamber, can you see any bare metal at the end of the barrel?A replacement will have to have had the threaded end of the barrel milled after it was blued to get it to fit right.
It means 'Winchester Proofed'! Around 1903 or there abouts, all barrels installed by the Winchester factory started were stamped with a 'WP"within an oval on top of the barrel at the breech end just before the receiver, it was added the the top of the receiver where the barrel screws into it around 1905 when all Winchester's were stamped in both places. If a gun smith outside of the factory ordered a new or different caliber barrel from the factory to replace the 'original' one, it would be shipped with only a 'P' stamped onto the barrel instead of the 'WP'. This is a sure sign that the barrel on any Winchester was a replacement, and though a "Winchester" barrel it was not installed by the factory. Additionally, any rifle returned to the factory for barrel replacement AFTER 1905 would have one installed with the 'WP' on it, irregardless if the gun was originally made BEFORE 1903/05. For collectors this is an obvious indicator that the barrel is a replacement IF the serial number indicates it was manufactured BEFORE 1903. Hope this clears things up for you....................Regards, Marty
A high polished blue finish.
$1000- $2000 depending on model and barrel length
Well, that rifle has not been made since 1941. You have two choices (since finding an original barrel in good shape is the same odds as winning the lottery). Option 1- a gunsmith can take a barrel blank, and machine and chamber it to fit your Winchester. It will not have any markings and will not be original. Option 2- a gunsmith can bore out your existing barrel, and insert a rifled liner. The outside will still have original markings. BOTH will be expensive
thank you to all togheter
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leave off the 19 on the serial number as this is my 1957 manufactured model 12 riot
Your Winchester model 12 trap grade shotgun is valued at between 700-1,200 dollars for a shotgun showing between 60%-90% of its original finish remaining,and a good bore.If you have the factory milled vent rib barrel with it add 60% to the above listed values.
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