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Yes, it could be costly depending on what would need to be done to install the track..

It shouln't be too hard but you would need to consult a pool expert on the proper way to attach the track that the vinyl is attached to. But remember that once a vinyl liner is used the pool can not be drained or it will ruin the liner. This means any major algae or other water problems need to be delt with using only chemicals, which can be expensive and frustrating, and very hard to filter afterwards.

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Q: Instead of resurfacing a gunite pool that is 20 some years old can a liner be used instead?
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Is a gunite pool better than a vinyl lined pool?

All day long. Concrete pools have real tile instead of the fake liner tile look. You can update a concrete pool later on as styles change: with vinyl it's final.


Once a gunite pool is converted to a vinyl liner pool can you convert it back to being a gunite pool I live in the Panhandle of Florida and have no problem with ground water?

If it was working ok before you lined it and you have no problems removing the liner you should have no problems.


After gunite and before marbelite can you line the pool with poly or a tarp to keep the water from leaking out?

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Should you drain your pool when it is about to overflow?

You should never completely drain an above ground pool. The chemicals in the vinyl liner that allow it to stretch when originally installed do not last. If you drain the water, the liner will shrink and when you refill the pool there is a good chance that instead of stretching back the liner will rip instead. NEVER drain your pool.


For inground pools is liner gunite concrete or fibreglass best?

Our experience shows that gunite or fiberglass are good. Gunite would probably last the longest. CONCRETE tends to crack over years with normal ground shifts. Had two pools with concrete, so many cracks after 10 years, buried the thing, the repair costs were astronomical.


Is it possible to have a fiberglass or vinyl liner installed over a concrete swimming pool?

Yes but its not recommended. You would have to replace the liner very soon. I have a customer who spent almost 60 grand on a pool were the liner was placed over concrete and now 4 years later she is spending almost 6 grand to replace the liner and redo the pool with vermiculite. Best bet is to refinish the pool with either gunite or vermiculite pool crete and then put in the liner. A liner can last ten to fifteen years before having to be replaced and then when it is replaced, it looks like a brand new pool.


What product do you use to seal a underground pool from outside water through side walls?

It would depend on what kind of an in-ground pool you refer to, i.e. gunite, concrete, block, vinyl liner, wood, or fiberglass.


Why would a gunite pool have a vinyl liner?

A very limited few were intentionally built that way. Usually in very low lying areas where cement/vermiculite allowed too much water to come through, making it impossible to "seat" the liner. However, this scenario does apply more to concrete than gunite. Gunite pools have a very short life (less than 20 years) of troublefree enjoyment, then the cracks, leaks, stains, and algae take over. Pool owners try either paint, epoxy, or new plaster. None of these solutions last more than three to four years, then they are forced to start over seeking a solution. Then, along comes a liner salesman with, what sounds like, THE answer. They will nail a "bead receptor" around the top of the pool, then install a beautiful, long lasting vinyl liner into the pool, with a 10 year warranty (pro-rated by the way). These pro-rated warranties are a bad joke, as every vinyl liner pool owner already knows. Nevertheless, after the last debaucle with two-part epoxy, plaster (marcite), or paint, this sounds like the obvious answer. Unfortunately, it is the worst answer of all! It won't even last three years. The bead receptor must be a part of the concrete deck around the pool, it can not be, under any condition, added later. That is why a gunite pool could have a vinyl liner.


Would it be worth the extra cost to replace a vinyl liner with a new gunite shell built inside old 15x30 pool or stick with the vermiculate bottom and a new liner since this one is 15 and leaking?

Think of it like this. This liner is 15 years old. How much is going to cost me to keep on fixing this one? How much is it going to cost me to put in a new one? More than likely, it will be cheaper to replace it. Good luck:)


Do you have to apply eye liner to the top?

In order to make your eyes stand out better it would be appropriate to apply eyeliner to the top lids. Unless you are trying to make your eyes smaller looking. Then just apply eyeliner to the bottom lids instead.


Can a vinyl liner pool be converted to a gunite pool and how expensive would it be compared with replacing the vinyl liner?

The answer is absolutely! Secondary market products are readily available for a conversion such as this. A plastic, resin, or fiberglass track is installed just under the top edge of the coping around the swimming pool. The track is usually attached with some sort of stainless steel screw. Rolled Wall foam can be cut into long sheets and attached to the existing plaster walls--usually with spray adhesive. The foam evens out the surface and also provides a nice "shock absorbant" pad in between the liner and the wall. Complete measurements of the existing structure need to be taken--and they need to be extremely accurate. Some of these measurements include the height of the wall, angle of slope, depth and step areas. For 99% of these conversions, a liner must be custom manufactured. I say this because you might hear an installer give you a quote for a "stock liner"--a mass-produced liner made based upon general measurements--carried in quantity at the local distributor. Conversions are rarely exact, so don't be alarmed if you have a small wrinkle or two. Expect to spend 25-50% over what a traditional liner replacement would cost. There's not too much of a difference in materials, so the cost will be mainly in the skilled labor. Definately find someone that has performed these conversions before. Don't just take their word for it. Go see the jobs--without the installer present!!!! Talk with the customers, and ask them how the installer performed. Best wishes on your project!!


I just drained my pool to repair the fiberglass liner that had begun cracking. It looks like really hard asphalt underneath. Is that possible?

I doubt it, Gunite is normally used in swimming pool structures and it could very well look like asphalt