If Jesus said he would be with us until the end of time will he abandon us after that?

Answer 1

Perhaps you are thinking of Jesus promise at the end of Matthew 28 v 20 where he said '....I am with you always even unto the end of the world.'

The context relates to the disciples carrying out what some call ' the great commission' to preach the Gospel to the whole world. Certainly Jesus would be with his followers to help them to do the job he had given them. He's saying, in effect, 'Hey, don't worry about not being up to the job I've given you - because I'll be right there.' Remember after time ends, this job of preaching and teaching expires and becomes irrelevant.

Other verses mention that He will be with His followers into eternity when time as we know it has come to an end.

2 Titus - 2 v10 - ' They may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus, with eternal glory'.

Hebrews 13 v5 - 'I will never leave you or forsake you'.

Revelation 22 v5 - 'And there shall be no night there, and they need no candle, neither light of the sun for the Lord God gives them light and they shall reign for ever and ever'.

The answer to this depends on which Christian tradition you belong to. For all the traditions that have Apostolic claim since the times of the Apostles, such as the Holy Orthodox and all Catholics -including but not limited to Roman Catholics- the answer is simple, He died because that was the reason He came to us, for our redemption, but He came back three days later on His Resurrection, and then again for the following few weeks until Pentecost, to put His church in order.

Later, while all Christians wait for His return in a visible manner -the 2nd Coming of Christ- we DO have Him physically present with us for the past two millenia in an 'invisible' or 'hidden' manner under the appearance of bread and wine. He did promise -not in figurative language but literally- that He would never leave us, and He has NOT left us -ever! He is found wherever the Eucharist is - as the Real Presence of the Risen Christ in full glory as He sits at the right hand of the Father until the time comes to return in visible manner.

Roman Catholics even adore the Real Presence in the Eucharist in Adoration Chapels by making turns to 'keep watch with Him' for an hour, reminiscent of the Apostles whom He asked to pray with Him during his Agony in the garden prior to His arrest. This is called Eucharistic Adoration, and Perpetual Adoration when the Eucharist is exposed for adoration on a 24/7 basis throughout the year.

By the way, the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ is really present in each of both forms -the consecrated bread and wine- so that in partaking of either, one partakes of the entire Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity or Jesus Christ. In this transubstantiation, both of Jesus' full humanity and full divinity are present in the Eucharist, under the appearances of the bread and wine, after the moment of consecration by the priest. The bread is no longer bread, while the wine is no longer wine. While the Orthodox do not name this 'transubstantiation', they also believe that at the moment of consecration, the Real Presence of Jesus Christ is in the Eucharist.

Other Christian traditions, such as the Lutherans, believe in similar presence of Jesus among us, though not in the transubstantiation, but rather in the consubstantiation -meaning both the natures of the bread/wine and of Jesus Christ are present.

Anglicans and Episcopalians also believe something similar, without specifying either consubstantiation nor transubstantiation, but still believing in the Real Presence after consecration.

Therefore, depending on which Christian tradition a believer belongs to, Jesus Christ has never left us, and never will until the end of time -meaning until He returns in visible glory.

Another View:

Jesus actually said "I will be with you until the end of the AGE" (December 21, 2012. Jesus is a sun god just like Horus and dozens of others who had twelve disciples, were called the "light of the world", performed miracles, turned water into wine and was crucified and resurrected after 3 days.

He is referring to the age of Pisces, the FISH which is why fish symbolism is so replete throughout the New Testiment. Prior to that it was Aries the RAM which is why the Jews blow the Ram's horn. Prior to that it was the age of Taurus the BULL. Molech was represented by a bull. Moses came down from the mountain and was furious because the people were worshiping a golden BULL.

But fear not, Jesus left instructions! He said at the end of the age you will find a man carrying a pitcher of water. Follow him into the town. The man is Aquarius, the water bearer. Soon Jesus will be replaced by another solar deity who will also be born on December 25 of a virgin and followed by three wise men. The three wise men are the stars in Orions belt. On December 25 the sun rises in Virgo (the virgin) and aligns with Orions belt heralding the coming of the new born savior. On that day, every single year throughout history, the nights become shorter signifying winter is ending, life is being "reborn" and on Easter (the spring equinox), the days officially become longer than the night.

On December 22 of every year the Sun is at it's furthest point away from the earth. It resides in the Southern Crux (aka, the southern cross). It sits still for three days then on December 25 it moves 1 degree north.

And so... the sun died on the cross, was dead for three days then resurrected.

And you're probably wondering what the 12 disciples are. The 12 constellations.