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Zechariah 9 v 8 cannot be 'another failed prophecy' since, rightly understood, in the proper context, all of the prophecy recorded which ought to have been fulfilled has been fulfilled. In addition to this it is likely in the context of the passage that Zechariah 9 v8 remains to be fulfilled as verse 10 most certainly is in a future context a pre-condition of fulfilment being the coming of the Messiah Jesus Christ entering into Jerusalem on an ass as He did a few days prior to His crucifixion.

OpinionZech 9:8 And I will encamp about mine house because of the army, because of him that passeth by, and because of him that returneth: and no oppressor shall pass through them anymore: for now have I seen with mine eyes

Yes, another failed Prophecy; Israel has been occupied many times since the time of Zechariah.

No, it is not 'another failed prophecy'. If you have trouble understanding a verse, read the full chapter to get it all in context: often a couple of words make all the difference, especially with prophecy:-

Zec 9:1 The burden of the word of the LORD in the land of Hadrach, and Damascus shall be the rest thereof: when the eyes of man, as of all the tribes of Israel, shall be toward the LORD. [Note: This has not happened yet]

Zec 9:2 And Hamath also shall border thereby; Tyrus, and Zidon, though it be very wise.

Zec 9:3 And Tyrus did build herself a strong hold, and heaped up silver as the dust, and fine gold as the mire of the streets.

Zec 9:4 Behold, the Lord will cast her out, and he will smite her power in the sea; and she shall be devoured with fire.[Note: partially fulfilled]

Zec 9:5 Ashkelon shall see it, and fear; Gaza also shall see it, and be very sorrowful, and Ekron; for her expectation shall be ashamed; and the king shall perish from Gaza, and Ashkelon shall not be inhabited.

Zec 9:6 And a bastard shall dwell in Ashdod, and I will cut off the pride of the Philistines.

Zec 9:7 And I will take away his blood out of his mouth, and his abominations from between his teeth: but he that remaineth, even he, shall be for our God, and he shall be as a governor in Judah, and Ekron as a Jebusite.

Zec 9:8 And I will encamp about mine house [Note: this refers to God guarding His Temple ] because of the army, because of him that passeth by, and because of him that returneth: and no oppressor shall pass through them any more: for now have I seen with mine eyes. [Note: Partially fulfilled only]

Zec 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass. [Note: fulfilled . The next time Christ returns it will be as the all-conquering King and not a lowly servant.]

Zec 9:10 And I will cut off the chariot from Ephraim, and the horse from Jerusalem, and the battle bow shall be cut off: and he shall speak peace unto the heathen: and his dominion shall be from sea even to sea, and from the river even to the ends of the earth. [Note; all of this verse is yet to be fulfilled]

Zec 9:11 As for thee also, by the blood of thy covenant I have sent forth thy prisoners out of the pit wherein is no water.

Zec 9:12 Turn you to the strong hold, ye prisoners of hope: even to day do I declare that I will render double unto thee;

Zec 9:13 When I have bent Judah for me, filled the bow with Ephraim, and raised up thy sons, O Zion, against thy sons, O Greece, and made thee as the sword of a mighty man.

Zec 9:14 And the LORD shall be seen over them, and his arrow shall go forth as the lightning: and the Lord GOD shall blow the trumpet, and shall go with whirlwinds of the south.

Zec 9:15 The LORD of hosts shall defend them; and they shall devour, and subdue with sling stones; and they shall drink, and make a noise as through wine; and they shall be filled like bowls, and as the corners of the altar.

Zec 9:16 And the LORD their God shall save them in that day as the flock of his people: for they shall be as the stones of a crown, lifted up as an ensign upon his land. [Note: whenever the term 'in that day' is used, it refers to 'the Day of the Lord' so, with the exception of verse 9, all this chapter is yet future and is thus unfilled prophecy.]

Zec 9:17 For how great is his goodness, and how great is his beauty! corn shall make the young men cheerful, and new wine the maids.

With the exception of verse 9, all this chapter is yet future and is thus unfulfilled prophecy.

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Zechariah 9:8 (KJV), "And I will encamp about mine house because of the army, because of him that passeth by, and because of him that returneth: and no oppressor shall pass through them any more: for now have I seen with mine eyes."


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