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This is not the way these naming conventions are used. That would never be a John Doe Jr II.
John Doe is the first person in a family to have that exact name. John Doe III is the third person in the family to have that name.
John Doe, Jr., is the son John Doe; he may NOT choose to be Sr even after the older John Doe has died. Depending on the history of the family, the person being called John Doe, Jr, could be the fifth person (or some other number) in the family to be named "John Doe," and therefore could also be called John Doe V. If that were the case, John Doe, Sr., could also be called John Doe IV.
But you NEVER mix the Jr/Sr/II/III naming with numbering at the same time.
II is ALWAYS when naming after a relative like an uncle or grandfather and a Jr NEVER becomes a II nor does he ever become a Sr.
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