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What is the significance of the Abraham to pilgrims?

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Abraham was the member of a male bloodline which according to the Bible stretched all the way back to Adam; the Hebrew Bible views the human race as a literal family, originating from a single original couple. As with all families, just as there are men who father a set of sons, only one son comes out exactly like the father, the other sons inherit the best or worst of the father but only one is like the father, the Hebrew people are therefore the people most like the first man and from among the Hebrews only one man, is like Adam. In ancient times, that man was allegedly Abraham.

The genealogy mentioned in Genesis, is the bloodline I'm talking about, and in ancient Jewish prophecy the future king of the world must come from that bloodline, and it can not be a "virgin birth" or anything like that, the Messiah must be more than just the descendant of David, he must be a man most like the first. Although there are many men in that bloodline, only the ones mentioned in the Bible form any significance; for example Noah's grandfather Methuselah, he's just a footnote, he has the distinction of being the longest lived man of that bloodline who ended up dying, but, ultimately "no one special" where his grandson Noah was, there is a whole section dedicated to his story.

When a member of said bloodline is mentioned, it generally means there are significant world events taking place, or, a significant spiritual event. For example Abraham's father Terah was an idol salesman; this tradition in fact existed in Judaism, before it existed in Islam. Abraham's purpose was the preservation of that bloodline; the Hebrew bible thus, sees any and all Jewesses to have given birth to children fathered by non Hebrews as traitors. In the book of Esther, obviously, she got pregnant by the Persian king, as he had her on a regular basis, however nowhere in the Esther story are her children by the Persian king considered Hebrews, or Jews.

The Hebrew Bible contradicts many established ashkenazi Jewish traditions, then again accusations have been thrown for centuries now, that the Hebrew bible is corrupt. The Judaism of today, is not the Judaism of King David, rather it is a corrupted, perverted version of it. The true Judaism will never be known to the world until the Ark of the Covenant is found; within the ark, the interior was laced with gold, and gold is not subject to decay or corosion like other metals, discoloration sure, but not corrision. Even if you are not a mystically minded person, from a scientific point of view gold is one of the best containers there is, part of the reason Egyptian Pharaohs were buried in sarcophagi laced with gold leaf, is because gold forms an impenetrable seal that keeps bacteria and other decay agents out. Gold also interested alchemists for its extreme longevity far as metals go; all metals corrode from lack of proper care, even steel, however gold does not. If the interior of the Ark was laced with solid gold, chances are contained within it are the original stone tablets, among other things written down by Moses himself. The ark was large enough, and it would only take a few small tablets to write down the five books of Moses, stone encased in solid gold, absolutely the original Torah survived.

For what its worth, the ancient temple priests were none too keen in the rest of the population learning how to read, nor where they too keen in allowing non priests to have a look at the original teachings of Moses, that alone is grounds for suspicion as to the authenticity of what the Hebrew bible and the Talmud teach. Of course you don't need to look at their behavior; a simple read of the Bible will let anyone know the Levite priests did much creative edititing in order to create for themselves a sort of proto religious police state. So what did ancient Israel look like at the time of the Romans when Judas Maccabeus was murdered, and the throne taken from him by the Levite priests? Believe it or not much like modern day Saudi Arabia, only worse. Long before Stalin, there was Herod, and part of the reason the Romans worked so closely with Herod, and the priesthood, is because they were the equivalent of the communist party elite. The ancestors of many ashkenazi Jews were tyrants, pretty much all Levites were, and ancient Israel in the time of Rome was a proto police state, where the Levite priesthood ruled with an iron fist later aided by Rome. Why do you think Jesus hates them so much?

The Talmud itself is not evil, and its quotes are taken out of context; the danger of the book is not its content, but its context, it does too good a job of training the reader's mind to look for loopholes in the law, specifically Jewish law. Some of the most horrific harm done to human beings in history comes from the "its not illegal" reasoning, and part of the reason Israel survives, is because the government is very adept at exploiting legal loopholes. Israel is not really violating human rights; bulldozing houses, is not against the law, according to human rights conventions. Its true; Israel has not broken any laws, what Israel DOES do, is look for the loopholes, and THEN it acts, but as far as breaking the law it has truly, never done that. They have become so adept at it, even if they commit a horrific act of murder say, when they blew up that Yassin fellow, collateral damage in a military operation isn't illegal. Therefore, the killing of Yassin, wasn't against the law. Additionally, also according to U.N. international law, when a military is active in a given area, no military in the world can be held responsible for reporters, human rights workers etc, who place themselves in harms way, even if they wear reflective vests. Just because you are wearing a reflective vest does not change the fact that you are placing yourself in harms way, and, according to the law, a military can not be held responsible for what happens to you.

Let me use a closer to home example; say you have cops and robbers having a gun fight like in Grand Theft Auto, only its hideously and scary real. The cops can not be held responsible if you run out there in the middle of the cross fire, and get yourself shot, this is the law all over the world where law enforcement is concerned, and where military operation is concerned; the same reasoning applies when human rights workers get killed in Israel. Yeah, its sad some of them get shot but, its not illegal. What about Palestinian civilians? Aren't Israelis hurting them? Well that is where legal loopholing gets complicated; by yet another legal loophole, the West Bank is a no man's land (its true). No country has claimed it, and no one wants it, hence, for anyone to live there, is not technically illegal. Again Israeli settlers can shoot any Arab they please, likewise the Arabs can shoot any Israeli they please because, its not illegal.

The West Bank has not been claimed by any Arab country, and the Palestinians are seen as a large crowd of individuals claiming it as their own, rather than as a legitimate country, and their infrastructure is so corrupted, I don't think any country in the world recognizes it as a country. Also, because everything in Israel, or many things anyway, are owned and operated by the government, here's how THAT works; a government owned Israeli company wants to bulldoze some Arab's house. Because said company is government owned, it reserves the right, as part of a cohesive socialist system, to request help from the government in case they get shot at by Arabs, and because both the military and said bulldozer demolishion company form a part of the same government working in an unclaimed territory, technically, what they do, isn't illegal. You hear that joke about the woman and her honeymoon who said she married a lawyer, and when asked why she said "this time I'll finally get screwed?" Well the way Lawyers ruin people's lives, is through the exploitation of legal loopholes, there is a large enough population of individuals in the world, where an honor system society, just wouldn't work largely because of them.

Not harming another human being SHOULD be a given, it should form a part of a person's neural wiring, however there are people out there who can only function in a society with the active threat of force against them if they break the law, and that, is the reason there is a need for the law, those few selfish types. However, when those few selfish types actively study the law, they will then use any loopholes in it to harm others for their own selfish gain, and because the rules are so monolithic, so inflexible, and so not open to interpretation unless clausses are involved and because taking something to court is so expensive, guess what? Your life could very well end up a wreck, and there isnothing you can do about it. Part of the reason ashkenazi Jews were violently thrown out of European countries is rooted in their tendency to exploit legal loopholes; reasoning wasn't going to work, following the law wasn't going to work, but it was obvious they were doing harm so they just said "to heck with the law, those people are turds and they are treating us bad with the help of the nobles, throw out the Jews." That pattern was seen throughout Europe for much of ashkenazi history and the only reason that here in the United States ashkenazi corruption goes largely unnoticed is both the sheer size of the country, and the fact that it is so corrupt, who will notice? So Jews are doing illegal stuff or exploiting legal loopholes so what? That kind of stuff goes on in America all the time; in the more or less healthier, less corrupt European societies of old, which had stable family units, and a strong willed king, corruption was much more noticeable if it happened, its part of the reason why Europe has a long history of revolts and overthrows. Here in America, most people live relatively comfortable lives, tend to be cynical, so any corruption that happens anywhere in the country is barely different to an American's mind, as a change in the weather. However in Europe, where the countries are smaller, if anyone does anything wrong, people will know about it, and if most of the people who do that wrong tend to be Jews, then, people will know that too.

There is absolutely no excuse for ashkenazi stories of persecution, the stories you hear about all their suffering is the tale of Russian Jews, not western European origin Jews, it was in fact Russian Jews who were put through hell, not the other European communities. By stark contrast they were just the opposite in fact; Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews outside Russia were disgustingly rich, its part of the reason Western Europe origin Jews tend to be atheists. Ever hear the expression you won't find an atheist in a foxhole? That is a slam against atheists, who tend to come from priveleged backgrounds, and have life go their way all the time, as opposed to people who have to learn to cope with loss, frustration, things not always going their way etc. Sadly though many wealthy people are far too adept at playing victim; take for example that whole deal with the papparazi. When an actor cries about it, their crying is just the exact same manipulative ploy that got them their millions to start with. They lied, cheated, manipulated and connived their way to the top, sometimes by playing victim when they weren't, and they use those same crocodile tear ploys in order to garner sympathy, when, to most actors the papparazi are not a source of true suffering, but rather a nuissance that prevents them from fully enjoying their often S.O.B. method gotten wealth.

Don't get me started on the Arabs; they are every bit as nasty as the Jews.

However we Iraqi Jews, are in fact just as corrupt; difference between us and everyone else though is that we have the good sense to keep it to ourselves.

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He is a Muslim prophet. Many of hajj (or pilgrimage) rituals are referred to events during Abraham life. Refer to question below.



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