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What is the difference between becoming an army ranger and just going to ranger school Can you earn the Ranger badge either way?
Becoming an Army Ranger would mean you have completed and passed RIP, Airborne and Ranger school and belong/serve in a Ranger Batt. There are many 62 day Rangers. These are So…ldiers who go through RIP, Airborne and Ranger school and then go back to their original job and unit. Both have Ranger Tabs. Only Ranger's assigned to one of the 75th Ranger Battalions wear the Tab and Scroll.
Certainly. You get out of the Marines at your normal separation date, then reenlist into the Army for the 75th Ranger Regiment. As far as walking into your Marine Corps first …sergeant's office and telling him, "First Sergeant, I want to be an Airborne Ranger! I want to live a life that's filled with danger!" he will either laugh at you, put you on additional training for three days for having heretical thoughts, tell you about Marine Recon, or all three at the same time. Ranger school is a school (just like airborne, pathfinder, etc). Yes, servicemen from other branches of the military (and foreign militaries) are allowed to attend Ranger school to receive the Ranger tab. Graduating from Ranger school does not mean you are in a Ranger battalion (or a Ranger, for that matter.) To be in a Ranger battalion, you must be in the Army (since all Ranger Batts are army units.) Marines do not need to enlist with the Army to become a Ranger. Much like a any Army Soldier can elect to receive Ranger Training, so can a Marine. Actually, there are documented cases of Marines that have scored the highest in their Ranger class because they were more prepared for the stress. As a perspective Marine, I have looked into this personally and done the research. If you have any further questions, seek a recruiter, because he can help you more. A Marine can earn his Ranger Tab, he is only considered a tabbed Marine. He will not be able to wear the tab (although some Marines elect to sew the Ranger tab under the front pocket) A Marine will often be nicknamed, ie. Ranger LoGiudice, or some other acquired nickname. I served with 1st Recon Bn, 1st MarDiv and our unit tried to send one Recon Marine per Ranger School Class. I attended Class 3-95, you might remember that class, as 4 Ranger students died in the Florida swamp phase. I am now Ranger Tabbed. I cannot publicly display it the USMC uniform. However, if you get out of the USMC and enlisted in the Army, you could then join a Ranger/SF unit, and therefore be a considered a Recon Ranger, I served as a Army National Guard Medic for seven years after serving on the active side of the Marine Corps. I am proud of all my military service. My former MOS was 8654 - Recon Marine, Airborne, Scuba qualified. I the new Recon MOS is 0326. Recon is the MOS to have if you have the heart. I attended the best schools and my career was on the right path, not a life for a married Marine. A side note: Ranger School was no joke.
An Army Ranger is an elite, light infantry soldier of the US Army. They are members of the 75th Ranger Regiment, which has approx. 2500 men. They are infantry, medics, and oth…er support personnel. There are 4 battalions. The 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and Special Troops Battalion. In order to join these ranks, you must complete these steps. 1. enlist in the army with an MOS found in the Rangers. 2. Pass basic combat training and AIT ( Advanced individual training ) 3. Pass Basic airborne school, as it is a requirement to be a ranger, as is with most us special ops. 4. Volunteer and attend RASP ( Ranger assessment and selection program ). This is an 8 week course which determines if you have what it takes to be a ranger. This course has only about 1/4 of volunteers pass. After completion, you will be assigned to one of the ranger battalions and be an army ranger. 5. After about a year or so, you will be sent to US Army Ranger School. This course is a leadership course. It's graduates are commonly confused with being rangers. Although they earn the ranger tab, they are not actually rangers. A ranger must pass this course in order to hold a leadership position in the Regiment and attend specialty schools such as Freefall and Scuba. The rangers perform a variety of tasks. They are a special operations, light infantry force, possibly the best infantry in the world. They conduct raids and shock operations by land, air , or sea. They are highly elite and have a great combat record. For more info, you can simply go to GoArmy.com or Wikipedia.
The same thing a Marine does. The Marine does not field any Ranger units, but they do send personnel to Ranger school.
actually a better question would be what is the marine cores equivalent to the army rangers. the rangers are considered more highly trained and more elite soldiers than the ma…rines (although a marine will tell you other wise). And the marines equivalent would be MARSOC which stands for Marine Special Operations Command.
So long as you have earned them, yes. The President's Hundred tab, Special Forces tab, Ranger tab, Combat Infantryman/Combat Medic/Combat Action badge, parachutist wings, Air …Assault wings, scuba qualification badge, Pathfinder badge, etc. are individual awards which can be worn by a soldier who has earned them, regardless of if they change units or MOS.
The U.S. Army have the U.S. Army Rangers and U.S. Army Special Forces more commonly know as the Green Berets and the U.S. Marine Corps have Recon Marines (split into Divison R…econ and Force Recon), who are special forces-capable, and MARSOC, which is their contribution to SOCOM (Special Operations Command)and are up their with Navy SEALs, U.S. Army Special Forces, and Air Force Pararescue.
Both are highly trained in their craft. If any difference exists it may rest in the weapon itself instead of actual skill or training, The standard Marine Sniper Rifle of 2011… is the M-40A3 which has replaced the M-40A1. Each is hand crafted and built by a Marine and the production rate equals one every day, In addition the standard round is the M118LR in 7.62mm and each round is hand loaded by a Marine Weapons repairman at Quantico, Virginia. This attention to detail insures tighter groups, consistent loads and improved rounds on target beyond 1,000 yards. The new rifle has an adjustable cheek piece and recoil pad for shooting comfort along with a swivel bipod, six quick-detach swivel mounts and a mount rail to alternate between the 10 power scope and the ANPVS-10 night scope. These additions put an extra two pounds of weight onto each Sniper, which leads some to be less than pleased. The Army's M-24 Sniper Weapon System is a perfectly acceptable weapon and it is essentially a Remington 700 Rifle and which has long been the prime SWAT Sniper Rifle.
It Depends on the situation, Each group serves a different purpose in the military. The US Army Rangers are a fraction of the military and receive more specialized training su…ch as parachuting or helo fast rope insertions because the purpose they serve typically places them in a role where they operate independently, conduct tactical missions with a low profile and a short duration after which they are pulled out. The Marine Corps would be the first to go in in an invasion type role or warfare as the Marines train more generally, covering numerous types of training so that the "Force in Readiness" is prepared for any type of situation or scenario they are placed in. Marines are the first to enter an area in bulk and usually intend to stay for a long duration and have numerous battalions on stand by at any given moment in order to be capable of entering a "warzone" within 72 hours. While specialized units such as Army Rangers are ready to enter within 18 hours due to their specialized training of fast ropes and parachuting into hot spots.
Its very complicated, but I believe that its possible, talk to you C.O. if you are currently in the military
Well the short answer is that they are different branches of the military. The long answer is this and I'll try to be as indifferent as possible. Ill compare the rangers to Ma…rine Corps infantry. Lets start with the USMC as I am more knowledgeable with them. First training wise, the Corps makes you go through a 13 week bootcamp. After which they go to ITB (Infantry Training Battalion) which is another 9 week long school. After which they go to their respective units (unless recon but they are not considered typical infantry). From there its training day in and day out and playing all of absurd "games" (not the fun kind). The training is extremely difficult and is non-stop as they are always out in the field or going on hikes with all their equipment and weapons (If your a saw gunner you have to carry your saw). Ok now with the rangers The easiest comparison would be to USMC recon because they are not considered SF (that would be the Green Berets). The rangers are usually the cream of the crop of the army (and many Green Berets are the best of the best in Ranger Battalions, usually) They go through army basic which I believe is 9 weeks long but it is much easier than USMC bootcamp. From there the go to AIT but I'm not 100% positive on that and after that if they have signed a ranger contract prior to shipping to basic (basically if they were physically fit with a 1st class pft and not a mental case) they go to ranger school which would be equivalent to USMC ITB but is slightly more in depth and emphasizes alot of team building and small team leadership (which is a main stay in the USMC as a whole). Also if you flunk out of ranger school you get recycled into regular army infantry. If you flunk out of ITB you get sent to some other MOS not infantry related (comm, cook, etc.). Now if you were asking who was better trained I would say a Ranger is about equal to USMC Infantry. Its harder to compare the two because they are trained for two very different missions but either one would be a very formidable opponent when someone in the army completes basic training with a ranger contract they then go to airborne school and after that are brought to RASP, not ranger school. ranger school is to earn a ranger tab, which someone from any unit (or branch) can try to achieve. RASP is to get selected into the 75th Ranger Regiment. which is a special operations group of the U.S. Army. while i will agree that marine boot camp is probably harder then army basic training, it is just that, basic training. the army itself is too large to train everyone to an elite standard, therefore theres groups like SF and rangers to draw out the toughest in mind and body from the regular ranks. unlike basic training and boot camp, RASP can be quit at anytime for any reason, and people are dropped frequently for lacking the substance to be a ranger. anyone can complete training that they are not allowed to quit, but doing something that just downright sucks and sucking up your pain and mental abuse, lack of sleep, blood soaked feet, and still performing to the standards even tho 80% of the class quits in the first few weeks, that takes strength. I am a former Army Ranger and my father was a Force Recon Marine. I will try to balance my answer as he seemed to be more familiar with the Marine side of things. When you go into the Army with a Ranger contract, as an 11B Infantryman, an airborne contract or an MOS that the 75th Ranger Regiment accepts or needs, you have an opportunity to become an Army Ranger. While anybody (who meets the pre-qualifications) in the Army can go to Ranger school, being an Army Ranger is a separate and distinct path that leads you into the Army's Special Operations Community. Without arguing who is tougher or who has the most training between Marines and Rangers, I will attempt to illustrate what training an Army Ranger does to get to where he is going and once he arrives at the unit. First; boot-camp, then AIT or a combination of them known as OSUT. Next, comes airborne school and RASP (formerly known as RIP), both located at Ft Benning, home of the infantry and the 75th Ranger Regiment. Upon arrival at one of the 3 geographically separated Ranger Battalions, you have just got your foot in the door, so to speak. You are recognized as a Ranger and your training as a Ranger essentially begins then. Based on unit availability, your "drive and motivation" and personal accomplishments/experience,etc., you are sent to Ranger school as soon as possible. Upon completion of Ranger school, you return to your unit and resume your training with your unit. Starting in RASP, you can "opt-out" or quit at anytime and you will go to a conventional Army unit based on the Army's needs. The Regiment can also return you to the regular Army based on your performance; or lack of. You are held to a higher standard in Regiment than you would be in most units. This includes physically, mentally and morally. The Ranger Creed is your guideline for this. All Rangers are required to memorize this (among other things)and live it daily. There is a large amount of emphasis on this in your early days as they develop you into a Ranger and leader. After Ranger school, you will most likely assume a leadership position if you haven't already. The role of a quiet professional is emphasized in all Special Ops units and a great amount of responsibility is put on young men early in their careers. The Regiment can do this due to their stringent entry requirements. Higher security clearances are required due to the nature of the Regiment's work. The missions your unit are primarily responsible for and command you're unit is under play a big role in what, how, when you will deploy into a combat situation. The Rangers in the Regiment are 4-time volunteers; in that they volunteer to come into the Army, to go to Airborne school, to attend RASP and attend/complete Ranger school. They are essentially an elite light infantry unit, although the term light infantry can be argued for modern-day Rangers due to the current conflicts. Because they are Special Operations, they have a unique set of skills/missions that they train for and are better at than other units. For example; you won't regularly see Army units storming the beaches doing a beachhead assault as that is the bread and butter of Marines and Navy units. An airfield seizure is an example of a "specialty" or primary mission of a Ranger battalion. Both Marines and Rangers train hard at what they do and IMO, are the best in the world at it. The Marines are unique in that they are, as stated previously, part of the Navy and serve as their Naval Infantry personnel. The Rangers are basically highly trained infantrymen who are part of a special operations unit that undertakes high-priority missions for the U.S. Understanding the differences in conventional and special operations units is key to understanding the differences in the Marines and Rangers. One isn't necessarily better, but they are different. There is no end-all, be-all force within any competent military, but as a team, the US military has a diversified combination to answer any threat to national security. Comparing those two is still more like apples and oranges. Most people ignorant (no offense meant) of the military and especially of front-line units want to know who is the toughest. That to me is a naive question and is also subjective to what their idea of tough is.
The Marines don't have Ranger units. Marine Corps personnel, however, can attend the Ranger School. Though, if somebody tells you they were a "Marine Ranger", you should defin…itely view them with skepticism.
You can go to the Army Ranger Course and recieve the tab but it is not authorized to wear on any AF uniform.
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The Rangers have more deployments, although line units (Army and Marines both) would typically serve longer deployments.
Both are equally as good as each other. They both have their specialist areas.