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Are Nazis and KKK the same?

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The American Ku Klux Klan of the first two-thirds of the twentieth century and the German Nazi Party of the 1930s and 1940s were both fascist political movements of their respective time and place. Fascism is the appeal to, and public justification of, the most base untutored human beliefs and prejudices. The KKK appealed to primarily Caucasian Americans by providing various justifications for their would-be adherent's hatred of minority (so-called) racial groups. The Nazi Party appealed to primarily Protestant Germans by providing various justifications for their adherent's hatred of people of minority religious persuasions. The American KKK movement did not rise to national political dominance although its members were responsible for thousands of individual murders and atrocities. The German Nazi movement did rise to national dominance and was responsible for millions of murders and atrocities in industrial and government sponsored slave and death camps.

AnswerThe biggest difference between the Nazis and the KKK was that the Nazis were the government, and the KKK was not. Hence, the Klan could advocate the eradication of non-Protestants, but really couldn't accomplish it. The Nazis were able to build death camps and kill pretty much anyone they wanted, until the Allied Nations were able to stop them. AnswerFascism is born from a distinct European cultural element reared in Catholicism and cultures of such. That element does not have a character of liberty. The authoritarianism of the Old World has no place in America and the second period Ku Klux Klan was aware of the eurocentric threat. When David Duke invited Papists to his klan it symbolized the future... Degenerates seeking an all inclusive white nationalism, complete with its criminal minded. Liberty is a White American Protestant cultural value. A proper klan should exclude foreign influence. AnswerFirst, one must differentiate between the KKK and often associated movements of White Supremacy and Neo-Nazi-ism. At the base political level, the KKK claims (and seems to) actually espouse a democratic form of government as its ideal; generally speaking, they wish for a form of government which most closely models that of the legal structure of the US government around 1900. However, their additional requirements are exclusion from government (and, in practice, one of segregation, apartheid, or expulsion) of a variety of various racial, ethnic, and religious groups. Essentially, the KKK envision a society consisting of only White Protestant Christian (or very similar Christian faith) members of society. To a large degree, they see themselves as Revolutionaries (seeing to overthrow the existing corrupt government) or Originals (seeking to reclaim their country from interlopers). As such, they have no problems resorting to violence or terrorism to accomplish their goal. They refuse to work within the existing system of laws, and instead seek to overthrow the current government.

Politically speaking, Nazi-ism is a form of authoritarian socialism; it has many of the characteristics of fascism, but it exhibits a significant deviation, one which makes it an ill-fit for the fascist label. Originally, (as conceived by Adolf Hitler in the late 1920s), Nazi-ism was primarily a nationalistic philosophy, concerned with maintaining and promoting the welfare of the "true" German peoples. It was much less concerned with the form of government required to advance that goal; in historical fact, Nazi-ism worked within the original republican form of government for a time (as any other political party in a republic), and switched over to a authoritarian Dictatorship (or, more properly, a demagogue-lead cult-of-personality) only later. Nazi-ism's base philosophy can be summed up as: "Promoting the superiority and prosperity of the True German Race". Once the Nazi dictatorship had replaced the former republican government, the policies it enforced were a combination fascist/socialist: many programs were collectivism incarnate, intended to provide significant benefits to the True German populace, while others were state-building exercises in centralization of raw power.

Nazi-ism's outstanding characteristic of anti-Semitism is only the most outrageous of its pro-True German philosophy: in practice, all non-True Germans were systematically excluded or exploited. Unlike the KKK, which seeks to separate itself from its "undesirables", Nazi-ism had no such general desire, and was much more utilitarian in this regard: Nazi-ism sought to destroy those it considered a threat (Jews, Homosexuals, Roma), but was perfectly happy to exploit (read: enslave) the other populations of "lesser" races, all for the benefit of promoting the advancement of the True German. Nazi-ism and the KK do share the characteristic of disregard for the existing order, and both see the uses of violence and terrorism as valid means to attain their goals.

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It's a squares and rectangles issues - all KKK members are white supremacists, but not all white supremacists are KKK members.

Allow me to make some generalisations and play some stereotypes to illustrate:

An African-American family moves into a house between some KKK members and some plain white supremacists. The white supremacists say,

"We're better than they are. Let's avoid them and snicker if they get lower paying jobs than we do."

The KKK members say,

"We're better than they are. Let's burn a cross in their yard in order to illustrate that they don't belong here and make them feel as ostracised as possible."

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