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If a person has a mental illness and commits suicide will they still be allowed into Heaven?

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September 12, 2011 9:13PM

  • I remember a response given by Jesus in the New Testament.

    Jesus taught that the only unforgivable sin was blasphemy of the

    Holy Spirit. So if you are a Christian who believes in his heart

    (not his head) that Jesus was the Son of God, He was crucified for

    our sins (new covenant), died and rose again then suicide is not

    blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and is forgivable by God. Unless the

    act is a direct challenge to God, or as spite to God and His

    Trinity. Most religions teach that suicide by someone with a mental

    illness, such as depression, is not considered a sin. It is

    considered an act that was caused by the illness and was beyond

    their control. The answer rests in your faith and if you believe

    your God would punish someone who was not responsible for their

    actions or welcome them Home.

  • Mental illness can be a consequence of social morales. It is

    estimated that about one third of all suicides in teens are the

    result of our cultural negativism towards homosexuality. Freud

    suggested that repressed desires result in neurotic manifestations.

    It is axiomatic that all repressed desires will manifest themselves

    in a pathological manner. IE., in a form of destruction.

    Destructive drives can only be externalized or internalized, or

    sometimes a combination. Ever wonder about all the ways people kill

    themselves slowly; smoking, starving, overeating, taking drugs?

    When repressed desires are brought forth, they must be recognized

    in order to be healed. That means you have to deal with them,

    accept them and embrace them as a part of you, and know that many

    others have the same desires, To be sure, mental illness can be a

    product of an apparent physiological defect resulting in

    insufficient or excessive production of various hormones;

    transmitters for neurons to process data, operate cellular

    functions in normal sequences. Logic should tell one that the only

    people who don't have to worry about being admitted to Providence

    are the young victimized by self hating individuals and the

    organized zealots of hatred that preach against Gods' most unique

    creations. Logic should tell you that the answer to your question

    is affirmative: Yes, God is the creator, and his creations are not

    subject to the judgment of mortals. No human could know the design

    or purpose of such activity, but Providence surely has such matters

    as part of the scheme of life. Providences judgments are clearly

    upon those who choose, and who choose to do evil, to preach hate,

    to make judgments outside of their right to do so and against Gods'

    purpose. I think this is what the Greeks call Hubris. Is there a

    biblical answer...why is it important...the Bible is a guide...its

    not everything. Do you think the Lords knowledge could be held in

    your hand in a single book? Say a prayer for the soul your

    concerned about and know you too have a purpose in knowing such a

    soul.

  • 'If' there truly is an unforgivable sin it would have to be

    suicide. Simply put the scriptures make no mention of suicide. One

    of the commandments is 'Thou shalt not commit murder'. In actual

    translation it means you shall not commit premeditated murder. If a

    person is truly mentally deranged and is not aware that he/she is

    going to kill themselves it can hardly be considered

    premeditated.

  • In any moral, or immoral, act there are two important factors

    to be taken into consideration: (a) freedom and (b) understanding.

    1. Freedom Two 8 year olds throw stones at a defenceless

    animal; one does it simply because he wants to, whilst the other is

    threatened with harm by a 16 year old if he does not throw the

    stones. The one who is threatened has less freedom and so is less

    culpable. Pressure can come from inside as well as outside. A

    person on drugs has less freedom than one who is drug free and one

    who has a psychotic disorder has less freedom than one who does

    not. 2. Understanding Two people throw stones at a

    defenceless animal: one person is 8 years of age and the other is

    16 years of age. It is obvious that the 16 year old has more

    understanding of the situation and is therefore more culpable.

    However, if the 16 year old has severe mental problems then he will

    be less culpable than the 8 year old. It is also

    important to remember that understanding and morality are strongly

    influenced by upbringing and social environment. A child who is

    raised to believe that dishonesty is acceptable will be less

    culpable than one who has been taught to value truthfulness. 3.

    Conclusion Bearing these things in mind, it could be argued

    that a person who habitually considers suicide is not in a healthy

    emotional state because the instinct of self-preservation is one of

    the most basic that humans possess. A depressed emotional state

    reduces a person's freedom and thus their culpability. If mental

    illness is added to the scenario, then the level of responsibility

    (and thus freedom) is diminished even further. As the Catechism of

    the Catholic Church states in paragraph 2282: "Grave

    psychological disturbances, anguish, or grave fear of hardship,

    suffering, or torture can diminish the responsibility of the one

    committing suicide." In short, from the perspective of

    Catholicism and indeed most religions, a person who suffers from a

    mental illness (or even depression) does not have a sufficient

    amount of freedom for the act of suicide to be considered a sin,

    much less murder. Therefore, it is inconceivable that God would

    keep such a person from entering Heaven. This is absolutely

    regardless of whether or not a person is a Christian, or even

    believes in God. "We should not despair of the eternal salvation

    of persons who have taken their own lives. By ways known to him

    alone, God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance. The

    Church prays for persons who have taken their own lives."

    (Catechism paragraph 2283)

  • I am a Christian and I do not believe people are punished for

    committing suicide. A person that does so is in deep emotional pain

    (like any pain in the body) and thus, if God saw fit to do

    otherwise then it would be done. I agree with the poster that said,

    "Their sins are forgiven." We all sin so this is not pointing to

    just suicide. No one has the right to tell another person

    whether they should live or die when it comes to a serious illness

    of endless pain and suffering. No one has the right to make that

    person feel guilty for thoughts of taking their own life. One can

    reason with the person and we should do the best they can. We are

    all so individual and we all have our own opinions on this subject.

    For those that want to go on living to their last breath, pain or

    no pain; be it mental or physical pain then that is up to that

    individuals right. There is nowhere in the Bible where is states

    God will punish you for taking your own life. He gave us the right

    to think for ourselves. Most people who commit suicide do not

    decide upon this for selfish reasons, but are either mentally

    exhausted, living with great pain and no hope of survival and it's

    a peaceful way out. I am by no means encouraging anyone with

    emotional pain to think suicide is the "in thing" because there is

    help out there for this.

  • I believe sins have to be confessed in order to be forgiven and

    if you commit suicide then how will you confess if you are dead??

    So how can an unconfessed sin be forgiven?

  • In an attempt to answer the above concern regarding an

    unconfessed sin: (1) In sin it is the person who walks away from

    God; God never walks away from anyone. (2) God loves

    unconditionally and forgiveness is obviously part of that love. (3)

    God's forgiveness does not depend on anything we do -

    including repentance. In other words, God forgives us even if we

    are not sorry; as God is love itself, He cannot do otherwise as

    such a thing would go against His very nature. (4) In truth, God

    loves us even while we are in the midst of sin. This does not mean

    that God loves the sin; but God does love the sinner. (5) The word

    'confess' means to 'tell the truth' and when we confess our sins we

    accept the truth that we have walked away from God, and allow God's

    forgiving love to heal our wounds; this is called

    reconciliation.

God is Love, but also consuming fire. He is HOLY. "Make every

effort to live in peace with all men and to be holy; without

holiness NO ONE will see the Lord." Hebrews 12:14 "If its hard for

the righteous to be saved, what will become of the ungodly and the

sinner?" 1Peter 4:18 As HARD as it is to believe that anyone can go

to Heaven, it can't be that way.

Brethren, why so many lengthy discords on such a question. Do

you not know that Christ knows why people commit suiside. We can no

longer judge a person for dong so than we can fly to the moon. Let

He who knows all judge and let that be an end to the matter.

"Answer" id="Answer">Answer

If the person is saved, then no matter what he or she does, he or

she still goes to Heaven. Nothing can separate us from God's

love.

ANSWER

You have to realize that the Bible teaches that we ALL have

sinned.

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of

God;

It tells us what the payment or penalty for sin is.

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death;

Obviously, we all eventually die, but the Bible also tells us

what this death is that is the ultimate punishment for sin.

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the

abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and

idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which

burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second

death.

We see here that even a "little" sin, like a lie, is what will

send us to hell. We have all lied, which is a sin, and so we do not

deserve to go to heaven which is a perfect place that God created

and cannot have sin in it.

So how do we get to heaven??? It's found in the end of one of

the above verses.

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God

is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord

Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him

from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord

shall be saved.

Jesus died on the cross to pay for our sins. He paid that

payment of death so that we can live in heaven one day. Just like

any gift, we have to accept it, or we will not receive it or the

benefits of it. We must truly believe in our hearts and say with

our mouth that Jesus died for us and that he rose from the grave.

We don't deserve this gift. We deserve hell, but God in his grace

and mercy has allowed us to go to heaven when we die.

If you DO pray and ask Jesus to take away your sins, thank him

for his sacrifice, ask him to take you to heaven, and TRULY mean it

and desire to live for him, then you are saved FOREVER!! Eternal

life means just that, ETERNAL. We obviously pray that no one

commits suicide. It is a sin. We all sin, though, and God has not

said that he'll go back on his promises to us if we sin. If someone

was truly saved and then committed suicide, they will still go to

heaven, regardless if they were mentally ill.

Above someone mentioned that the unforgivable sin is suicide.

That is not what the Bible says.

Mark 3:28-29 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven

unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall

blaspheme: But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath

never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:

Someone else said that suicide is not mentioned in the

Scriptures, but the Bible does tell us of people that committed

suicide. King Saul and Judas are two that come to mind.

If you are considering suicide, please do not. Ask for help, go

to a friend, family member, doctor, and a pastor to get

encouragement and help.

If someone you know has committed suicide, you can be reassured

that suicide will not keep you from heaven. Sadly, any sin will,

but if they were saved, then they are in heaven, now.

God's sense of justice is perfect. He is loving. God is Love. He

always takes our imperfection into account when judging. If someone

is mentally ill and this can cause them to do things they normally

would not do doesn't this relieve them of some responsibility. Even

mankind recognize that it would not be fair to judge someone that

is mentally ill the same as someone who is not. God is much wiser,

just, and loving than anyone in mankind. Also please note that hell

is not a firery place where people are tortured forever. To imply

that God would do that to any part of his creation as punishment is

complete nonsense. The Bible does not teach that he does.

"Answer" id="Answer">Answer

Provided they are repented of, ALL sins can be forgiven, and this

includes suicide. Otherwise you fall into the same trap as the

Pharisees with levels of sin and grading people accordingly.


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