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Some early Gnostic Christian sects were of the view that Judas Iscariot was fulfilling a divine plan in betraying Jesus. However, the Catholic-Orthodox branch of early Christianity clearly saw otherwise, as shown in Matthew 27:3-9 and Acts 1:16-19. The condemnation of Judas Iscariot is inconsistent with a belief that he acted in good faith.
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∙ 8y ago
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∙ 8y agoGOD knows Everything before it even happens!! HE is a wonderful GOD that knows what goes on!!
Jesus, as God, had the attribute of omniscience, that is, knowing all things. While He temporarily laid aside certain aspects of His deity, He obviously knew what men thought, and what was on their hearts. At times He knew what they were whispering in private. The Scripture indicate as well that He knew what Judas had planned, as He revealed at the Last Supper. Judas' betrayal was also prophesied in the Old Testament, of which Jesus was so familiar, that He confounded the Doctors of the Law (O.T.) when He was only 12 Years old. Luke 2:46,47.
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∙ 11y agoNo. Judas planned Jesus' death for money. Jesus was aware that it was happening, but did nothing to prevent as it was God's plan and will for His life; however He did not partake in planning it.
You might want to re-state that. Judas and the Pharisees plotted Jesus' death, Judas was payed 3 pieces of silver to betray him. Jesus knew all of this of course. the other disciples did not.-Drooppu
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Why is no one mentioning the Romans?
The Romans wanted Jesus' death more than anyone, in fact, they actually nailed him to the crucifix, killing him.
Pontius Pilate's Jewish wife pleaded with Pontius to let Jesus live... did Pontius listen to his wife? No... Pontius instead chose to listen to a bloodthirsty mob instead.... and on this note Jesus was crucified under the authority of Pilate. He may think his hands were clean, but he is every bit as guilty as Judas, if not moreso.
Yes, Judas told the Romans where Jesus was for 30 pieces of silver... However, that doesn't make Judas the plotter of Jesus's death.
Through all of this Jesus was subjugated to G-d and doing His will. This topic then goes into opinions and perceptions into and out of various areas leading to circular arguments.
BUTIf you look at what The Bible says;
Joh 11:47 Then the chief priests and the Phariseesgathered a council and said, "What shall we do? For this Man works many signs. ..........................
Joh 11:53 .................Then, from that day on, theyplotted to put Him to death.
The scribes and the pharisees plotted Jesus' death. Judas was only a means to the end. The Jewish council tried Jesus but because Israel was under Roman rule at the time the Romans were the one who administered 'justice'.
God planned it and allowed it to happen.
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But your answer does not address the question:
"Did Jesus and Judas plan Jesus' death?
To address your statement (you mention the bible but only use references to the short add-on of the 'new' testament without any reference to the background of Judas or Jews, whom you accuse):
If you look at what the Bible AND what History says:
Who were the Pharisees governed by? Were they free to do as they wished?
What might be driving them besides their love of G-d? Caesar perhaps, maybe Caesars Legions? Were the Pharisees that were in power only allowed to be in power because of their willingness to act on behalf of the Romans? If you did not agree with Caesar, you were dead or on the verge of being dead. 10 years later over 650,000 Jews were slaughtered in the Destruction of Jerusalem by who? The Romans.
On another note: The Pharisees would not kill Jesus, Why? Because to do so would break a commandment, "Thou shall not murder". On the other hand, why would the Pharisees want him dead? Commandment #1, thou shalt have no other G-d before Me. If they wanted to kill Jesus they could have, very easily, but they did not. They were in a pickle. You cannot break a Commandment to keep a Commandment, what is the point of that? G-d is against it.
In reply to your question, which is a different tangent. The Pharisees were doing what they thought was right, for the Holiness of G-d and in being obedient to what G-d had commanded and in relation to the commandment in Devarim (Deuteronomy 18:22): Thou shalt not be afraid to kill the false prophet.
Thus they were conflicted and torn about this issue of Jesus...
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∙ 12y agoI shall just rephrase you nquestion to make it understandable to me. -
WAS JUDAS PREDESTINED TO BETRAY JESUS?
Yes; in so far as Jesus said, when he was talking to his disciples in John 6. 70. "Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?"
And the Scripture replies to him in v.71- "He spake of Judas Iscariot [the son] of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve."
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∙ 12y agoThe problem with this idea is that the Pharisees and priests seem to have had no need to identify Jesus. He is reported as frequently arguing with the Pharisees and priests, so he must have been well known to them. The synoptic gospels tell us that Jesus overturned the tables of the moneychangers in the Temple, so there would have been many witnesses very willing to identify him without seeking a large sum of money in payment. Finally, it seems that much of the population of Jerusalem was against him. The payment that the gospels say was made to Judas as a surprisingly large sum of money, but seems to have been unnecessary. If Jesus wanted to be arrested, he need not have waited very long.
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∙ 6y agoNo... Judas gave in to the temptation of Satan, letting lies and deceit and greed become his pathway. You see Judas thought as many of Israel did, that Jesus was come to be King and therefore destroy Rome, and free all Israel. However that was not his mission at that time. Many became angry when they discovered he was not going to eliminate Rome and take over the world as King of kings. They therefore became cynical toward Jesus
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∙ 8y agoThe gospels say that Jesus knew well in advance that Judas would betray him. Of course, by necessity, the gospels were written after all events had occurred, so we can not know whether the evangelists imagined remembering this, or even added the expectation in order to make a better story.
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Why did Judas Iscariot betray his Master?
Judas Betrayed Jesus because he was told to do so. Although Judas did not understand everything Jesus said, he was abedient to what the master asked of him. When Jesus said "who ever dips his bread in the bowl with me will betray me" and Judas was picked for the task. There is no way Peter would have done it, nobody knew the master plan. Then Jesus Told Judas "Go and do what you must do" and Judas did as Jesus told him. I didn't understand his next question "is it with a kiss that you betray me?". What else could have been said at that moment?
Was Judas chosen to betray Jesus?
Judas was not forced, he was temped by Satan ... Those 30 pieces of silver (the price of a slave) looking mighty good in Judas pocket. Judas was paid to betray Jesus Christ and accepted the bribe.
Is Judas the son of James and Judas Iscariot the same person?
No. Judas the son of James is better known (to some of us) as St. Jude Thaddeus, an apostle and good guy. Judas Iscariot was the disciple who betrayed Jesus and did not live long enough to be an apostle.
Did God's plan for redemption rely upon the actions of Judas or was that just a coincidence?
God's plan for redemtion did not have to rely on anything. Jesus dying on the cross was planned a long time before Jesus was born as a man. Nor was it a coincidence. Jesus revealed at the Last Supper that Judas would betray him. This eventually sent Jesus to the cross and died for our sins. Judas used his free will and it was his own decision to betray Jesus. The sadducees were just looking for a reason to crucify Him. If it wasn't Judas then it would have been someone else. But God knew even before it was prophisied in Isaiah.
Why did Judas grab the Romans while Jesus slept?
Because Satan led Judas to betray Jesus for a few pieces of money, he was guilt ridden after he done this, because it was Satan pushing him to do it, but little did Satan know God knew what was going to happen and Jesus death was God's plan to pay the ransom for us.
What the disciple Judas did and why he did it?
Judas Iscariot betrayed Jesus and then repented and committed suicide.There was one other disciple called Judas, with no last name. **greed is why he did it - Jesus removed protection from Judas so that Gods plan could be fulfilled.John 17:12While I was with them, I protected them and kept them safe by that name you gave me. None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be fulfilled.
Who was the good disciples?
All of the disciples, with the exception of Judas Iscariot, have always been thought of as 'good' as all of them went on to proclaim the good news about Jesus in various parts of the world, most even dying for their beliefs. However, some even state that Judas Iscariot could be thought of, in one way, as good. For without Judas's betrayal of Jesus, the trial, crucifixion, resurrection, ascension and ultimate salvation of humanity would never have happened, and therefore Judas could be thought of as doing God's work as part of His plan. If you subscribe to this belief then all the apostles could be thought of as 'good'.
Why Jesus had to be betrayed by Judas especially when he was so popular?
That was all part of God's plan. Jesus came as the lamb of God = a sacrifice for sin. John 1:29 The next day John saw Jesus coming to him, and said, "There is the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! It was God's plan for Jesus to die and God's plan for Judas to betray Him. We don't know for sure but it seems that Judas may have repented of his sin, in that case God would forgive him. Mat 27:3 When Judas, the traitor, learned that Jesus had been condemned, he repented and took back the thirty silver coins to the chief priests and the elders. Mat 27:4 "I have sinned by betraying an innocent man to death!" he said. "What do we care about that?" they answered. "That is your business!" Mat 27:5 Judas threw the coins down in the Temple and left; then he went off and hanged himself.
Out of the 12 disciples in the Bible who was the most loyal to God?
peter was the one who reconized jesus after he died and came back to life so it was peter. Judas was pre-determined to betray Jesus. He was called by God to perform this act that was prophesied. If he refused God's calling he would have been disloyal to God. If Abraham was not stopped by the angel would he have still killed his son? If God did not want Judas to heed his calling would he have not dispatched an Angel to stop Judas? Judas did not hear the cock crow 3 times as he denied his affiliation with Jesus. Judas did not run away from Jesus as Pilot's men descended upon Jesus. Judas brought Pilot's men to Jesus. Once again, Judas was instrumental to fulfilling God's plan. Good instance of Pre-determination verses Free Will.
Why was Judas selected as a disciple?
Because Judas would eventually betray Jesus. But God knows what is going to happen and he knew that Judas would betray Him and that was part of God's plan for Him to die on the cross and save us from hell. so if Jesus would have not picked Judas as a disciple then the Crucifixion would not have taken place the way that God meant it to!Answer #2:As Jesus is supposed to be the manifestation of God on earth, he doomed himself to suffer 33 years of human misery out of an eternity of (presumably) bliss. Definitely a sacrifice but, in the grand scheme of things, put-uppable-with. Especially as he made the bloodthirsty rules in the first place. On the other hand, in order to put Jesus in this place to make this supposed blood payment, Judas would have to condemn himself to 'eternal damnation', and the condemnation of all, for all eternity. Of the two, I consider the second the greater 'sacrifice'. Judas would therefore be the 'true' saviour. Thank God it's a load of hokum.
Did Jesus chose Judas to be a disciple?
Yes look at John 13:8------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I've viewed john 13:8 and this is what it said.13:7 Jesus answered and said unto him, What I do thou knowest not now; but thou shalt know hereafter.13:8 Peter saith unto him, Thou shalt never wash my feet. Jesus answered him, If I wash thee not, thou hast no part with me.13:9 Simon Peter saith unto him, Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands and my head.ANSWER:Yes.Joh 6:70 Jesus answered them, "Did I not choose you, the twelve, and one of you is a devil?"Joh 6:71 He spoke of Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon, for it was he who would betray Him, being one of the twelve.Jesus knew from the start Judas would betray Him, but this was all in God's plan. Seems hard on Judas but it is possible that Judas repented of what he had done:Mat 27:3 Then Judas, His betrayer, seeing that He had been condemned, was remorseful and brought back the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,Mat 27:4 saying, "I have sinned by betraying innocent blood." And they said, "What is that to us? You see to it!"Mat 27:5 Then he threw down the pieces of silver in the temple and departed, and went and hanged himself.
What did Judas Iscariot do for a living?
Judas Iscariot may well have been what we call today an "entrepreneur"... which is sometimes humorously described as, "a person who will work at almost anything to keep from getting a job."He was an opportunist who hedged his bets on whatever he did.All we are told about him is that he: "...had the bag..." (John 12:6).This translates that he was in charge of the group's "finances" [whatever that may have entailed].In this particular passage, he feigns concern for the poor when he cared not at all for them [or anyone else other than himself]:"...Mary took about a pint of pure nard, an expensive perfume; she poured it on Jesus' feet and wiped His feet with her hair. And the house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume."But one of the disciples, Judas Iscariot, who was later to betray Him, objected, 'Why wasn't this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year's wages.'"He did not say this because he cared for the poor but because HE WAS A THIEF; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it." (John 12:3-6 NIV)Judas Iscariot was a thief.AnswerActually, we are told nothing of his occupation. The only reference of his character comes from John's gospel, and within context, John places an aside about Judas that reflects John's distain of someone who betrayed Jesus - a person who regarded John as his best friend. The fact remains that, while Judas betrayed Jesus, there is a distinct possibility that in carrying out the betrayal, and putting into motion the events that surround the crucifixion, Judas was instrumental in carrying out God's plan for salvation. Moreover, other gospels tell us that he suffered remorse for what he had done and, presumably would have received forgiveness as a result of that remorse.So, despite the negative rhetoric spoken about Judas since the events of 2000 years ago took place, nowhere in scripture or elsewhere does it say what he did for a living - it might have been illegal, or it might have been honorable; we just don't know.
