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I have replaced the succession box of this article with one that conforms to the standards and guidelines set by WikiProject Succession Box Standardization so that it can serve as a sample for the kind of changes we wish to make in a larger scale throughout the articles of Canadian politicians. This succession box has retained most of the information that was present in the previous box; the only information that was not included was the number and party status of the cabinets, something which is mostly of statistical nature anyway and can be found in a list of cabinets. The current box has placed Trudeau's political offices in a chronological order and has unified the Minister of Justice succession line; furthermore it is more discrete and aesthetically pleasing, as well as simpler in its parameters and syntax. Please do not immediately change back the box but discuss it and see whether the new format is indeed preferable or not. Thank you. Waltham, The Duke of 09:30, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Non NPOV"Generally forgotten is that Trudeau's question in Saskatoon was rhetorical and followed by long explanation that, in epitome, said that the governments' role was only to help farmers to sell their own wheat, and told of some of the difficulties involved in doing so on the international market; likewise, that the protesters in Salmon Arm were shouting blatantly anti-French and anti-Quebec slogans. In his book Paradox: Trudeau as Prime Minister, Anthony Westell covers this incident, giving a good sense of what was actually said, rather than the excerpt that made the headlines."

In my opinion, this passage seems to be defending Trudeau in a particularly non NPOV way. I really don't know how it could be fixed without deleting it outright, so I was wondering if there were any suggestions. -Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.66.47.150 (talk) 02:57, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, it could be presented as what that book said - IF that is what it said --JimWae (talk) 03:12, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

The whole thing looks like an essay without citation aka pulling stuff outta' my butt. -Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.225.243.189 (talk) 08:44, 28 June 2008 (UTC)The phrase "In his book Paradox: Trudeau as Prime Minister, Anthony Westell..." is a citation. It's not in footnote style, but it most certainly is a citation - the book does exist, it is a reliable source, and it says exactly what it's being quoted as saying. In other words, this looks less like "pulling stuff outta' my butt" and more like "I don't want this article to contain properly cited information that could undermine why I personally hate him so much" - which is far more POV than the original passage ever was, particularly since the content in question was replaced instead with unsourced assertions that both incidents happened completely devoid of context or explanation. Bearcat (talk) 04:23, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:25, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Why does this entry lack images?I find the lack of photos in this entry disturbing. Is it because of Wikipedia copyright policies? Bwark (talk) 18:51, 16 June 2008 (UTC)Basically, there were a bunch of images in there before (from the Canadian national archives), which were tagged as being in the public domain. Then it turned out that people were misinterpreting the archives' copyright policies, and that they weren't in the public domain at all, so they were deleted. I plan on putting some more in at some point - any photo of Trudeau taken in Canada up until the age of thirty should be in the public domain, and I think there are definitely some fair use rationales to be written for others - but I haven't yet gotten around to it. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 19:44, 16 June 2008 (UTC) Why LLD (Mont)?In the infobox, Trudeau is titled "LLD (Mont)" which presumably means that he got his LLD from University of Montreal. Is it standard for all Canadian LLDs to have their alma mater specified in parentheses? --Richard (talk) 22:49, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

I think this might be because it was an honorary doctorate, and as such the place received is pertinent rather than the actual degree (and because someone might have honorary degrees from multiple institutions). It is not common for someone with a "regular" LLD to list the institution in parentheses behind their degree, unless they are listing the originating university for all of their degrees (as someone might on a c.v., for example. Richard Smith (talk) 04:43, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Kind and politeA friend of mine used to cross him almost daily as they took the elevator together at her workplace (office tower). She says he was always kind, polite, and smiling.

Maybe there would be a way to include this description of the man in the main article?

CielProfond (talk) 03:43, 16 October 2008 (UTC)I'm afraid not; per WP:V and WP:NOR, we can only include facts in the article if they've been published in reliable sources. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 03:46, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Anti-CommunismEvery so often, I post on the Pierre Trudeau page, under "categories," that he was a "Canadian anti-communist." "Canadian anti-communist" is frequently deleted by other editors. Every single U.S. president since 1945 until 1993 (the beginning- to the end of the Cold War) (Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, and Bush) has, on their Wikipedia pages, the category of "American anti-communist." Likewise, as Canada is a major player on the world stage, I think that it is wholly appropriate to list every single Canadian Prime Minister since 1945 until 1993 (Mackenzie King, St. Laurent, Diefenbaker, Pearson, Trudeau, Clark, Turner, Mulroney, and Campbell) as "Canadian anti-communists." If you are under the misapprehension that because Trudeau was friendly with Castro it means he was a communist or communist sympathizer, you are wrong. Ronald Reagan displayed friendly relations with the Communist Chinese leadership but does that make Reagan pro-communist? Absolutely not! Sopm (talk) 17:03, 21 December 2008 (UTC)While I am not one of the folks who have deleted the term "anti-communist" from this page I find it unreasonable to conclude that Trudeau was anti-communist. Trudeau was very active as a youth in the corporatism movements in Quebec which were at first pseudo fascist and later pseudo communist. Trudeau studied under one of the pre-eminent socialist economists of the 20th century, Harold Laski, at the London School of Economics. Laski himself was quite sympathetic to the communist, centrally controlled approaches to economic management. Trudeau's works, such as Federalism and the French Canadians, use much of the Marxist class-based terminology. Finally, I suspect the primary reason Trudeau cannot be labelled "anti-communist" is that Trudeau himself never positioned Canada particularly strongly against communist regimes while he was PM. Rather, Trudeau tended to be middle of the road in foreign relations with such countries (arguably a better approach diplomatically). To use your example, while Reagan did engage in some friendly foreign relations with communist countries, Reagan also took some pretty aggressive positions against communist countries. Thus, Trudeau is generally perceived as not being anti-communist whereas Reagan is.DWiatzka (talk) 23:11, 22 December 2008 (UTC)I have reverted your category edit. Re-inserting a claim that you know to be under dispute, without citing a source, is unhelpful. Please back up your position before putting that back in the article. I'm not an expert on the man, but my understanding is that DWiatzka's position is correct in this. Also, given his position on Cuba in the face of American pressure, you would likely have an easier time proving his sympathies for the Communist states than proving he was an anti-Communist. You need to back up your claim. Matt Deres (talk) 04:10, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Anti-communist means "actively fought against communism". That simply doesn't describe most Canadian Prime Ministers - although no Canadian Prime Minister has ever been a communist, certainly, virtually not a single one after Bennett was ever involved in any sort of organized anti-communist activism. Or, at the very least, Bennett's is just about the only one in which the category link itself wasn't the one and only appearance of the word "communist" (let alone "anti-communist") anywhere in the entire article - which may not be the same thing, admittedly, but in the absence of real sources we have to treat it that way nevertheless. Trudeau's article mentions communism exactly once in the entire article, as the subject of his doctoral thesis at Harvard, but that doesn't lend itself in any significant way to clarifying his beliefs on the subject one way or the other.

The Cold War simply doesn't apply to Canadian PMs in anything even remotely approaching the same way as it does to American presidents, because Canadian Prime Ministers were never leaders of the Cold War - most of them, in fact, just tried to keep Canada out of harm's way by flying under the radar as much as possible. Put simply, the category doesn't belong on anyarticle that doesn't explicitly describe the subject as having been an active anti-communist. Bearcat (talk) 04:33, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Bearcat - you write that "Canadian Prime Ministers were never "leaders" of the Cold War." Well, using that logic, Canadian Prime Ministers,

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