The debate for capitol punishment is equal to the 'pro-choice, pro-life' abortion debate. I'm not sure if there is a right or wrong, but strong feelings on both sides.
The pros for life can depend on the state and circumstances of the crime. Some states don't have the 'life with no parole' option. In these states it would be death or eventual parole. A perfect example of this would be the case of Charles Manson and his zombie followers. They were given a death sentence but when capital punishment was overtuned in a higher court all death cases were turned to life with parole. Thank goodness no parole board has turned them loose.
There are many people that feel life is the only choice, murder is murder to them whether it was the defendant or the state, it's still murder in their eyes. There are some crimes, that are so horrific and gruesome, that death is the only just sentence, for death penalty supporters.
Then there is the financial aspect. One view is that is cost so much to house and feed a prisoner for life is cripling to the state or federal prison that houses them. But again, it cost millions per prisoner to execute the condemed due to the lengthy appeals that are built-in to every death sentence.
And lastly, the judicial system has to decide if the prisoner will be a future threat. Even inside prison walls, there is violence and sometimes murders. So even though they may never see the outside ever again, there is still a danger to everyone on the inside, including prison staff such as guards. Jeffrey Dahmer and Albert DeSalvo are perfect examples of prison violence.
I hope this has been helpful. Every person has to decide what they are morally comfortable with.
He was placed with a number of relatives changing schools and ending in Gibault Home for Boys in Indiana. He was a young back then. This was just the first of a lifetime of incarceration for Manson.
As Manson entered his middle teens, his life was much the same as his late childhood, spending his time either in or escaping out of reform schools. Charlie proved to be as poor a thief as he was a student, always managing to get caught and ending up back in an institution. While at the Indiana School for Boys in Plainfield, Indiana, Charlie claimed he was repeatedly raped and he soon escaped.
Yes, he had 4 kids while in prison through conjugal visits.
The most recent interview I could find was from March 19, 2009 for the Inside Edition TV show.
As unbelievable as it may seem, I could not find a complete list of Manson's parole hearings. But here are the one's I could verify:1978, Nov. 28, 1979, 1986, 1992, 1997, 2002, 2007. The only one I question is 1979. There is usually a 3 to 5 year waiting period after a hearing. But there could be a legitimate reason for the 1979 hearing so soon after the one in 1978, I just failed to find it even after a search of the California Parole Board archives.
*Footnote:Manson's next hearing will be sometime in 2012, but I doubt the Board will opt for a different verdict than the eleven previous decisions.
Bantam Books in 1976.
She may not have been the only one, just the only one that went with the others on two nights of murder. When Charles Manson selected the people that carried out his orders of murder he picked the one's he knew would do as he wished, no questions asked. Kasabian was one of the more recent additions to Manson's 'family', knowing Manson for a much shorter time than some of the others.
Manson made a huge mistake when sending Kasabian along to the Tate-LaBianca residences. The only one that did not take part in the violence, she was, however, the only family member with a valid California driver's licence. She made an easily believable witness for the proscution.
Kasabian was the mother of a small daughter, which may have left her more 'grounded' and stable, not as easily influenced by others. It is probably true in at least a small way that she was not the type of person that was in the habit of losing control over her mind, drugs or no drugs, to outside influences.
It was not so much as Manson himself but his trial and the strategy of the prosecution. Bugliosi proved beyond a reasonable doubt that Manson was just as guilty as the 'family' members that actually commited the murders.
The prosecution had an extremely difficult job. Manson did not kill the victims himself but ordered the murders and was in fact not present when the murders occured. With such a complex case there were many witnesses, many different individual pieces of evidence and defendants that caused disruption on a daily basis. The prosecution had to lay a foundation if they wanted the case to stand and be successful. Piece by piece, over weeks and then months, the facts were presented to the jury in a way they could understand what was to most people, incomprehensible.
Bugliosi and his team were blazing new trails with the Manson trial. The unique situation left little previous presidence to guide them. Just as it is difficult to prosecute without a body, it was equally difficult to prosecute when Manson, by all accounts was not present. He could not be tied to a murder weapon, the motivation was bizarre to say the least, and Manson himself made little to no sense with his ranting, rambling speaches.
In retrospect, the prosecution was succeessful against great odds. I have no doubt that had Bugliosi been on the OJ Simpson case the outcome would have been much different. And although Vince Bugliosi did not work alone (he had a great team at his disposal) it was his persistance and perserverance to see justice for the Tate-LaBianca victims, and his brilliant legal mind that made the prosecution of Manson and his murdering chums a possiblity. Kudos to Vincent Bugliosi for removing these viralent and dangerous people from society.
I believe so, he had a long list of more or less itinerant ( traveling) crimes such as serial auto theft. this in no way links him to the song: ( Indiana wants me) by R. Dean Taylor.
Initially, Manson was under mandatory solitary because he received a death sentence. Later, after his sentence was commuted to 'life', he remained in solitary for his own safety. Not uncommon with killers that are as notorious as Manson is. Wisconsin cannibal serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer is an example of why this is necessary. Dahmer refused solitary living conditions for his own protection and was attacked by another inmate. He died en route to the hospital.
I don't really know but I'm assuming she would probably be dead now because he is now 74 years old..... but then again she could be alive. if she did die it would have probably been while her son was still in jail.
At the conclusion of the trial which was 1970. Since he was given a death sentence his first stop was San Quentin, right outside San Francisco.
Manson is a master manipulator. He used several different mind control techniques on the members of his 'family'. As much as they all said how "Charlie is love" and "Charlie is beautiful" they were afraid of Manson, and with good reason. He would beat the young women terrorize the men, and withhold the young children from their parents to keep them in line.
He used mind altering drugs for further control. He and he alone decided who would take what drugs and how much. He controled their sex lives. It was all under his control.
Manson was big on repetition. The 'family' members were subjected to his stories over and over again. He knew how to drill in a point. And if you were smart you would not offer your own opinion. Smile and agree. That was the best way to stay alive.
So here you have young people, mostly women, that have taken or given mind altering drugs, fear for your life, and fear for the life of your young child.
When you put all these together it's not hard to imagine how these middle-class kids lost themselves.
They have not. Susan Atkins died of brain cancer in September 2009, barely a month after addressing the parole board to ask for a release due to her terminal illness. She was turned down and died an inmate. Patricia Krenwinkle and Leslie Van Houten are still in prison, having been denied parole many times in their 40 plus years as convicted killers. Van Houten is married and both her and Krenwinkle work inside the prison in programs that help others.
He claims he spent some of his childhood being raised in the Wheeling, WV area. He also claims to have spent time at the Moundsville Penitentiary, and wrote them a letter asking to be transferred back. They turned him down.
No, he wrote lyrics and music for Dennis Wilson, and never got paid for it, even though the songs were recorded.
No, Charles Manson is not dead. He's still alive, and is a ward of the State of California Department of Corrections.
Charles Manson died on the 19 November 2017
The Manson Family killed Sharon Tate, her 3 house guests and one other person at one location, and the LaBianca couple at another location. The two crime scenes had 7 victims, and it was these multiple murders for which the Manson Family was charged. Manson was never charged with murder, but was charged and convicted of conspiracy as the head of the "family" that committed the homicides. A link can be found below.
Manson was charged and convicted of 1st degree murder. (7 in fact) California law states that a person that orders a murder is just as guilty as the person that actually commits the murder. He was found guilty of 7 counts of 1st degree murder and was eligible for the death penalty by special circumstances that are built into death penalty cases. You are not eligible for the death penalty on a conspiracy conviction.
Manson, Patricia Krenwinkle, Susan Atkins and Leslie Van Houten all received death penalties but their sentences were commuted to life in 1972 after a Supreme Court desision making the death penalty illegal on the grounds that it was cruel and unusual punishment. The Supreme Court obviously did not visit the Tate, LaBianca crime scenes.
References:Helter Skelter by Vincent Bugliosi.
Manson is what is called a career criminal. His life of crime began before he hit a double digit birthday. In and out of juvenile facilities then on to state and federal prisons. Nobody knows for sure (except Manson himself) when Charlie killed his first victim. But by the time he and his 'family' came south from the Haight-Ashbury in San Franscico in the late 1960's Manson was primed for killing. On August 8 and 9, 1969 Manson order his family to murder the residents at 10050 Cielo Dr. and Waverly Dr. in LA. Two nights of murder and eight people dead. Manson and five of his loyalist family members all received the death penalty. In 1972 the Supreme Court struck down capital punishment so all death sentences were commuted to life.
Negative. Manson's father Colonel Walker Scott b. 5-11-1910 to 12-30-1954 died of cirrhosis of the liver. Manson's mother Kathleen Maddox b. 1918 and d. 1973, no cause of death available.
*Many thanks to Vince Bugliosi, former L.A. prosecutor turned best-selling author of true crime. His accurate info is invaluable for people searching for the truth. God Bless.
Charles Manson is currently in Corcoran State Prison, in Corcoran, Kings County, California.
Corcoran State Penitentary
He was not. At the time of his trial for the Tate-LaBianca murders he was found sane enough to stand trial. Had he been found insane he would not have stood trial and he most definitely would not have received the death penalty.
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